TNG Returns!

[Mojochi]

Anyone thinking they're just going to get TNG:20 years later is in for a shock. You can't go home again. The characters have moved on, their Enterprise days long behind them. We've already seen a future TNG crew reunite to help Jean-Luc Picard one last time in "All Good Things" so we're not going to be seeing a repeat of that.

This really goes without saying. It'll be a new production team working with him, undoubtedly a new premise, & a new audience even, to some extent. The people hatching this more than likely just want the PR boost of having a huge Trek icon in their pocket... not to say they won't have some appreciation for it too, maybe, but when all is said & done, it literally CAN'T just be some nostalgia porn.

People thought they were getting that with the reunited Star Wars cast, & look how that's panning out for them, with a dead Han Solo & all their Luke Skywalker bitching, on top of the loss of Carrie Fisher. That said... As close as Stewart is with the TNG main cast in real life, I almost can't imagine this thing going down without them surfacing in it... somewhere

I mean, come on. It's his tv family for god sake. I could be wrong of course, but I literally can't see him getting his foot in the door, & not holding it open for some or all of them. Those people love each other. I don't know how much star power you can assume Stewart is packing these days, but from just the PR of the past few days alone, he's got some pull.

And, realistically, Picard is a bigger draw for people on the fence about getting CBSAA.

I don't know how many people that truly represents, but it's got me thinking about it, & I wasn't planning on it for just Discovery. It's certainly a move they did deliberately for that reason.

 

[Mojochi]

Oops... Sorry for the double post... It wasn't originally lol

Mojochi, I didn't say the first quote. But I did say the second.

Gah! That's my bad, Dude. I fixed it. Sorry

I just don't see that happening. This show seems to be a vehicle for Patrick Stewart. It's a Picard story, not a "let's catch up with the old crew or other crews" story. As for more 24th century shows....we'll see. These things are expensive and I don't really see them making an investment in something they'd have to create from whole cloth. It makes more sense for them to spin-off in the current DSC era in order to reuse a lot of stuff.

Well, that would turn me off pretty quick, if it's just a gimmick to steer people, like sheep, into their existing product. Nothing could be less artistically fulfilling imho

I'm not adamant about the other castmates being brought back in, but I really don't know why Stewart wouldn't want to at least try to bring back such close friends in at least some small capacity, assuming he has any pull at all (Which I can't be sure he does)

And for people saying we've had reboots and prequels for the last however many years.....we've had 500 hundred hours or so of 24th century Trek. When we get that many in the Burnham / Pike / Kirk era, then I'll be ready to move on to a different time period. Not before.

Really? Wallowing in the folds between pages isn't mundane to you at all? It always was to me. I find the entire notion of prequels lame as shit, to put it mildly. There's nothing artistically adventurous about it at all imho. It smacks wholly of low-risk, playing it safe, in the marketplace.

 

[Greg Cox]

Indeed.

My prediction, per Stewart's comments: Picard will no longer be in Starfleet; in fact, he's not been seen for some time, perhaps a decade. .

Not been seen by other characters in the 24th century, or simply not been seen by us television viewers for years and years? We haven't see Picard since NEMESIS, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's turned into Howard Hughes in the interim.

 

[thribs]

He’ll be like Luke Skywalker. Depressed and miserable and will die in the most unceremoniously way.

 

[GulBahana]

Is Picard gonna have a ship or finally accept being an Admiral? I hope other prime universe characters will pop in for a guest spot.

 

[thribs]

Is Picard gonna have a ship or finally accept being an Admiral?

That’s been approached in the novels and he quoted what Kirk told him in Generations to the Admiral who offered him it. I doubt he’ll be one.
I think he will be a ambassador. That’s the job people do when they want to become a dullard it seems.

 

[Mojochi]

Wouldn't it be ironic if this production team gave Picard as reverent a treatment as Kirk got from the TNG production team in Generations? Killed off like a schmuck

 

[Nerys Myk]

It was...fun

 

[Guy Gardener]

Are there going to be flash backs to young Picard staring Tom Hardy and Dave Birkin?

 

[thribs]

Are there going to be flash backs to young Picard staring Tom Hardy and Dave Birkin?

Who needs other actors when you can just use Marvel’s de-aging effects.
It’s not like Patrick Stewart has changed much in 30 years.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Who needs other actors when you can just use Marvel’s de-aging effects.
It’s not like Patrick Stewart has changed much in 30 years.

David is 41.

Tom is 40.

And... Oh?

You can't have them both playing 40 and half year old Jean Luc Picard, surely?

I assumed that there was a starker age difference between these two kids.

Que sera, sera.

 

[Maestro]

Pretty sure the only thing we know is that Jean-Luc Picard is going to be in this show, set 20-some years after Nemesis. Everything else is speculation.

Just curious to see what happens regarding the novels.

 

[Valenti]

This is a chance to do TNG right and change a few things - smaller bridge with toggle switches, smaller crew - no children (unless you want to have a generational ship on a twenty or thirty year mission to Andromeda someplace without phasers and stuff) - new starship (much smaller) - new set designs - a more specific mission or story line arc and main mystery, etc. - new uniforms a must. Picard a full Ambassador with a Captain that is tainted by scandal like the Rifleman or Branded in space.

 

[DEWLine]

I'm going to call it "The Picard Project" until we have an official name for the series.

And I expect they'll do whatever they end up doing no matter what I'd like to see. Sitting back to wait...

 

[unimatrix7]

Most of the people working on The Picard Show come from Discovery, I don't think they're going to say "Right, let's make a show for people who don't like what we're doing!"

Agreed. But they might say 'this is a different show from Discovery so let's make it different to Discovery."


On an unrelated note I've noticed a lot of people talking about other TNG characters making appearances, but there's plenty of scope for other 24th century castmembers to appear too.

Stay tuned though, because every out-of-work D-lister from DS9 and Voy will come crawling out of the woodwork over the coming months to argue that their character should be returned for a guest appearance. I reckon Garrett Wang and Max Grodenchik would elbow their way to the front of that queue


The fanboy in me would like to check in with Kira, Odo, the Dax symbiote, the EMH and B'elanna Torres though. I make no apologies for that

 

[Abi Smith]

If it is 20 years since TNG and our most recent view of the Prime timeline is Spock and his red matter, I'm going with the background to the plot being Picard continuing Spock's work reuniting the Romulans and the Vulcans .
Given his history with Sarek, Spock and Shinzon he would have valuable knowledge.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Showrunner/Executive Producer Alex Kurtzman co-wrote the Countdown comic, which had Picard as a Federation Ambassador and Data (back in the same way as Professor X was following his first death in X3) as captain of the USS Enterprise.

Spoiler: fate of another character

Nero mortally wounded Worf but we never got confirmation he was dead.

I wonder if he'll bring any of his Countdown ideas to The Picard Show?

 

[Paul Weaver]

I hope not. Data is dead, let him rest.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Showrunner/Executive Producer Alex Kurtzman co-wrote the Countdown comic, which had Picard as a Federation Ambassador and Data (back in the same way as Professor X was following his first death in X3) as captain of the USS Enterprise.

Spoiler: fate of another character

Nero mortally wounded Worf but we never got confirmation he was dead.

I wonder if he'll bring any of his Countdown ideas to The Picard Show?

Wouldn’t the new Picard show be set about 12 years after that comic book?

It would be nice if they at least referenced the events of Countdown and Spock (he’s in everything so why not) - maybe that’s the reason why Picard is not the same man we knew from TNG (to reference PStew’s announcement) because the loss of Spock affected him badly. I’d love to learn that Data came back via B4 mind you - I still haven’t forgiven Nemesis for that...

 

[Mojochi]

Agreed. But they might say 'this is a different show from Discovery so let's make it different to Discovery."

Unfortunately, they don't often think like that either. More often they want to use the publicity from a project like this to reflect back on their other products. Most corporate ventures think like Disney, who made a whole film series, so they could drum up attention for a pirate ride at their theme park

There's a strong possibility CBS will want their 2 online Star Trek shows to compliment each other somehow. I'm not saying that's guaranteed, but it stands to reason. I just hope it features Stewart & his character well, maybe offers his old friends from the show some opportunity for one last day in the sun, with their old characters, & of course... it is good.