TNG movie dislike?
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And that's exactly why the TNG moves don't work very well. They tried to change characters who were developed a certain way over seven seasons into "swashbuckling action-adventures" and it didn't translate successfully.
There are two very different types of Trek, and you've mentioned both. I remember when TNG found its voice in season three and it started to seem like there were more fans of it then TOS. I wonder if that's still the case?
I prefer the TOS approach. Found TNG to be too nicey-nicey, but think DS9 is a very good middle-ground. As far as Abram's goes, I like the approach, but think the scripts for all three needed another pass to address some of the issues. Maybe the fourth will be the best?
I wonder why they never did a movie a la DS9. It could have been nice.
They didn't think they could successfully transition it to films, then there was the sliding ratings, and that the story was pretty well wrapped up.
Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise never got the traction with mainstream audiences to make films a viable option.
That's too bad, they could have made a movie about Sisko coming back from the Prophets's as he said he would and rounding up the old team for some purpose, involving imminent danger to a great many of people (as always).
Agreed. Although I'm not surprised that the NextTrek style has become synonymous in people's minds as being what Star Trek "is", there is more of it for a start, it has rather overshadowed in many of their minds what TOS actually was. Not the TOS movies even, but the original TV series. That is the core that the Abrams movies tap into, and very successfully so IMHO.
TNG never made it to the movies. Even the best of the lot, FC, didn't feel like TNG. They'd gotten too far away from Roddenberry's more soulful stuff and too much into Berman's production mill. TNG's heyday was the sweet middle section, seasons 3-6, and I never felt like I saw those guys on the big screen. TOS' zap zow, alien bikini stuff's fine (if that's what you see in TOS), but I'm a TNG fan, and I wish they made one really great TNG movie fitting the dreams of the fans. In this life, the closest we got was "All Good Things..."
Who would you see as Picard in that movie?
Are you asking in a JJ movie? I kinda don't care. Maybe an unknown actor out of the RSC?
...I meant I wish Berman & Co. made one really great TNG movie.
It was mentioned elsewhere by someone that the Classic Series movies actually had a raison d'etre. The TV show couldn't really return to television and be done on the scale that it needed to be done on. The medium of motion pictures was a new frontier for the franchise to explore, as well. When Paramount splashed out for TNG movies to be made, there really wasn't any reason for it, other than out of a sense of entitlement. Mostly what the TNG movies seemed to do was give its main actors a break: Stewart gets to be an action star, at last ... Spiner gets to emote, regularly ... Marina gets to talk normal ... Burton ditches the VISOR. Gates and Frakes, with their 'akes-alike names, get to stay pretty much, as they are. It just would've been nice if, as with TOS, the movies had new ground to cover for TNG.
Which is the story that should've made it to the big screen.
I don't think they had that in them. They were TV people, good at making TV.
No I mean, who do you see now, who could play a convincing Picard?
Jude Law! He was the "Sky Captain," you know ...
You mean a picard with hair? That's almost as bad as... a Kirk with hair!
James McAvoy?
James McAvoy?
Well, he could play a young picard, a pre-stabbed picard but you need someone a bit more seasoned to play captain picard.
He doesn't really look the part.
Really just looking for great actors. Looking like Stewart is superficial, especially if TNG gets the reboot treatment.
My understanding based on things Michael Piller wrote in his unpublished book about making Insurrection, his original idea while not featuring the Dominion directly would have featured a war wearied Picard and crew. Part of the storyline was to feature Picard's conflict with a Federation Council who abandoning the principles the Federation was founded on in an attempt to win the war. Berman didn't want anything beyond casual references to the Dominion because they felt the general audience would have no idea who the Dominion were and that there was a war going on.
In fact Pillar's original idea seemed far more interesting than the movie that was actually made. It would have inolved the Federation and Romulans working together to effectively plunder a planet with a fountain of youth. It would have featured a long lost friend of Picard's as the main villain, Picard would have killed Data and the movie would have ended with Picard and his crew's future in Starfleet some what in question. Allegedly Patrick Stewart didn't want to do another dark Picard movie and instead wanted a lighter movie with Picard having a love interest.
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