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TMP Theory on Captain Archer

Because it takes place after all those other shows stopped production.

Wrong! Chronologically, it takes place BEFORE any of those shows had even started, so it should have been known in all those shows. Unless there is a logical explanation for that. I have such an explanation.
 
Wrong! Chronologically, it takes place BEFORE any of those shows had even started, so it should have been known in all those shows. Unless there is a logical explanation for that. I have such an explanation.
If you know how to look a calendar, the answer is obvious
 
Wrong! Chronologically, it takes place BEFORE any of those shows had even started, so it should have been known in all those shows. Unless there is a logical explanation for that. I have such an explanation.

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Wrong wording. My fault. The show was created after the rest stopped production. That is the answer. Anything else is just fanwank.
 
You asked why ENT wasn't mentioned by anyone in the other shows. That's the answer. The characters are unaware that Star Trek is a series of TV shows and movies.

"ENT" was obviously a shortcut for any events taking place in the time of ENT.

I didn't know I was addressing someone more interested in quibbling than in having an interesting conversation.

Can I speak to someone like that?
 
Refresh my memory. What are you referring to?
Okay, first there was the SS Valiant what left Earth before the year 2065.

If we include TAS, the Terratin colony left around 2069. The name suggests 9 previous colony missions.

In Up the Long Ladder there was a lingering shot of a list of Earth ships traveling towards the Ficus sector between 2102 andl 2187. I did get some ships and dates wrong in my previous post, I since looked them up.

The SS Hohule A, in 2102, deep space exploration, that was 50 years before ENT.

The British ship's diplomatic mission was in 2135, there was a previous diplomatic mission in 2120 by a different ship.

The list had 9 missions prior to NX-01's first mission. And that was just to one far off sector.
 
"ENT" was obviously a shortcut for any events taking place in the time of ENT.

I didn't know I was addressing someone more interested in quibbling than in having an interesting conversation.

Can I speak to someone like that?
Quibbling is what helps make this place interesting most of the time.
 
I am talking about an explanation taking place INSIDE the world of star trek not OUTSIDE of it.

In universe, everyone thought Archer was a turd who lucked into finding the Federation. No one mentions him, his ship or his ineptitude.

Better?
 
:sigh:

Wrong wording. My fault. The show was created after the rest stopped production. That is the answer. Anything else is just fanwank.

I don't get it. If you don't like what we're talking about then why do you even post in this thread?
 
Okay, first there was the SS Valiant what left Earth before the year 2065.

If we include TAS, the Terratin colony left around 2069. The name suggests 9 previous colony missions.

In Up the Long Ladder there was a lingering shot of a list of Earth ships traveling towards the Ficus sector between 2102 andl 2187. I did get some ships and dates wrong in my previous post, I since looked them up.

The SS Hohule A, in 2102, deep space exploration, that was 50 years before ENT.

The British ship's diplomatic mission was in 2135, there was a previous diplomatic mission in 2120 by a different ship.

The list had 9 missions prior to NX-01's first mission. And that was just to one far off sector.
Thanks. I recalled Terratin and the Ficus sector colony, but was drawing a blank on the rest. Okudagrams are hit and miss, some are jokes. IIRC, Enterprise mentions a couple of Earth Colonies, including Deneva and Vega, as being established. So Earth or at least organizations from Earth, were sending ships and colonist out in to space before the NX-01. Some might have been sleeper ships.Plus there are several ECS ships plying the spacelanes.
 
Thanks. I recalled Terratin and the Ficus sector colony, but was drawing a blank on the rest. Okudagrams are hit and miss, some are jokes. IIRC, Enterprise mentions a couple of Earth Colonies, including Deneva and Vega, as being established. So Earth or at least organizations from Earth, were sending ships and colonist out in to space before the NX-01. Some might have been sleeper ships.Plus there are several ECS ships plying the spacelanes.

Going at warp one or warp two, the Vulcans probably didn't care. Those ships were going nowhere fast. They hampered humanities development of faster warp drives.
 
SO how come that ENT is never ever mentioned even once on any of these shows?
Even once? TNG had at least two references to Enterprise: the planet Archer IV mentioned in Yesterday's Enterprise, and the events of the Kir'Shara trilogy were mentioned in TNG's Gambit Part 2
We'd see less than an hour's worth out of every two weeks of these people's lives...they could be having long, in-depth conversations about the glory of Jonathan Archer and the NX-01 when the camera wasn't rolling.
Like Riker and Deanna evidently were during The Pegasus.
Wrong wording. My fault. The show was created after the rest stopped production. That is the answer. Anything else is just fanwank.
Indeed, and it should be noted other Trek productions made after Enterprise's creation have included references to it: USS Archer in Nemesis, Admiral Archer in Trek XI, a model of the NX-01 in STID, a whole boatload of them in Beyond which I won't go into here because Spoilers.
 
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