Spoilers Titans - DC Universe Series

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  1. Christopher

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    ^Well, they aren't using any of the characters at the same time, which I think is the important part.

    Anyway, it's surprising how many of Arrow's major villains came from Teen Titans rather than Green Arrow -- Deathstroke, Brother Blood, Damien Darhk, HIVE. I wonder how many will get new versions on Titans.
     
  2. JD

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    I didn't realize those were all Teen Titans villains.
    You mentioned Mercy Graves being in the Arrowverse and I have to confess, I completely forgot she was Rona Mitra's character. For some reason I was she was someone else.
     
  3. Christopher

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    Yeah, the only Arrow "Big Bads" that really came from Green Arrow comics were Malcolm Merlyn and Ricardo Diaz (and Emiko if she counts), though Merlyn's earlier incarnation debuted in Justice League and Diaz is loosely based on DC's heroic kung fu master character Richard Dragon (who actually debuted in a prose novel co-written by Dennis O'Neil). Ra's al Ghul is, of course, a Batman villain, and Prometheus is mainly a Justice League foe. (Oh, and Konstantin Kovar originated in Teen Titans too, as I should've guessed from his appearance on Titans.)

    As for Supergirl, its only Big Bad native to Supergirl comics was Reign. Astra and Queen Rhea were both original to the show, Non, Eve, and Otis are based on characters from the Superman movies, and Agent Liberty is mainly a Superman character, as of course are Lex Luthor and Mercy Graves. And of course Legends doesn't have a comics equivalent, so its villains are drawn from all over. Only The Flash has drawn all its Big Bads from its hero's corresponding comic.
     
  4. Nerys Myk

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    I'd like to see Kid Flash and Speedy on Titans.
    The Bug-Eyed Bandit originated in the Atom's book. And of course Killer Frost is from Firestorm.
     
  5. Christopher

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    Neither of which is a Big Bad (i.e. a season's primary, arc-driving villain).
     
  6. Nerys Myk

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    I wouldn't call Otis one either, yet he's on your list.
     
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  7. JD

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    I've always been a bit surprised how many characters Arrow took from the non-Green Arrow comics.
     
  8. Christopher

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    I got a little carried away there, but it should still be immediately obvious that my list was by no means inclusive of every villain in the show.

    Not many comics heroes have rogues' galleries as rich as Batman's or the Flash's. Even Superman's rogues' gallery is thin once you get past Luthor and Brainiac.
     
  9. Skipper

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    Yep. There are so few DC heroes that have a proper "Rogue Gallery". Even Wonder Women (one of the Big Three) has just two-three recurrent foes . And after they used Ares in the first movie, well, you are stuck with Cheetah. And perhaps Doctor Psycho.
     
  10. JD

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    Isn't Circe also a fairly major recurring Wonder Woman villain?
     
  11. Christopher

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    Well, she was a member of Odysseus's rogues' gallery first... ;)
     
  12. Mr. Adventure

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    Not bad but Hawk and Dove don't work for me at all, they feel like they're part of a different series and not one I'm interested in.
     
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    I don't know, I think the "heroism as addiction" angle for H&D is an interesting approach and fairly relevant given the themes relating to just how broken most of these people really are.
    Also, that they're being portrayed as essentially "survivors" of the super hero scene is a compelling contrast to Dick's pitch to Rose.

    My only concern is that Dove will end up getting stuffing in the fridge just to drive Hawk over the edge. I mean, with Dr. Light on the board now...? Yeah. Eww. No thanks!
     
  14. Mr. Adventure

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    hmm, I see what you're saying, maybe not as divorced from the rest as I was thinking. We do seem to have a theme of the heroes trying to find themselves and who they are and want to be.
     
  15. dodge

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    It's happening!

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  16. Nerys Myk

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    Dick Grayson's famous butt
     
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    There are several contenders for the title in that photo. :D
     
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