"Tin Man" the worst episode of TNG ever?

[InklingStar]

I see Tin Man as a precursor to Farscape. It's not hard to imagine that Gomtuu is a stray Leviathan, is it?

 

[Spider]

I can see right now, as soon as I've finished will all this other polling I'm doing, I'm going to have to do a "Worst of Trek" polling.

 

[Blueicus]

I liked Tinman, I'd say it would be in my top 30% of the episodes.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Photon said:
Tam looks and acts like a psycho Peter Pan but, any episode that has Romulans and a Warbirds in it and actually firing is OK by me.

That's what I was going to say.

Its a fairly respectable episode. It isn't the best, but its a nice concept with a decent execution.

 

[DWF]

Tin Man has always been one of my favorites the music was different, the overall theme was well done and I liked Data's speech at the end and in light of his death in Nemesis it does seem to take on more weight now.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Tin Man was OK, but only just. Nothing spectacular but far from the series worst.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

I never thought it was bad, it was a change of pace...Enterprise sent on a mission as opposed to cruising about waiting for Data to explore himself and the crew to be put their paces for obvious social commentary (like say 90% of Voyager episodes).

Tam wasn't supposed to be likeable, he can't block people's thoughts...he'd be borderline looney if not utterly mad.

 

[mr.peany]

Belar said:

What I also love: Jay Chattaways wonderful score (his first for TNG, by the way). I know, this has been said so often, but it is true: This score is one of TNG's finest ...

Agreed. Im nearing the end of a TNG season 3 on dvd marathon and one of the first things i noticed when watching this particular episode was how awesome the score was. Especially in the scenes involving those pesky Romulans.

 

[SonicRanger]

Very far from the worst. Nowhere near even.

A few much worse episodes off the top of my head:

Code of Honor, Shades of Grey, Emergence, Loud as a Whisper, Aquiel...

 

[Superman]

^^^Those are all works of art compared to "Tin Man."

I mean, c'mon. Whoever wrote it was apparently smoking crack. The characterization was atrocious, the Tam "character" was too much and ruined the episode.

About the only good thing was the living ship, which would have been cooler without the Tam aspect.

Even then, it still would've been a shitty piece of an episode as written and filmed.

\S/

 

[Saul]

It's a shit episode.

 

[K-Star]

I thought it was ok...

 

[chardman]

Whoever wrote it was apparently smoking crack.

Umm... that would be Dennis Bailey, who is better known around these parts as UWC Defiance. That's pretty well known here. So I gotta ask: Do you truly hate the episode as much as you claim, or is this just a "clever" way of lashing out at a fellow poster who may have rubbed you the wrong way?

 

[Mallory]

There are far too many worse episodes in the first couple of seasons for me to even include Tin Man on the list. I actually enjoyed watching this one and Tam was refreshing precisely because he wasn't some perfect person.

 

[chardman]

I agree. Which is why I wonder if the OP's over-the-top hatred of the episode might not be completely genuine, and may instead be feigned solely as an attempted jab at Dennis.

 

[Akiraprise]

I liked Tin Man. For the reason Mallory stated and because it had the Romulans being a pain. Gotta love those Romulans. :thumbsup:

 

[14thDoctor]

chardman said:
I agree. Which is why I wonder if the OP's over-the-top hatred of the episode might not be completely genuine, and may instead be feigned solely as an attempted jab at Dennis.

Yeah, I got that impression as well.

 

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LitmusDragon said:
It has some genuine hard- sci-fi concepts in it like genetically bred spaceships and interstellar telepathy.

Genetically bred spaceships? Maybe.
Interstellar telepathy? Nope, that's not hard sf at all (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Tin Man is an awesome episode, and really a shining example of the kind of story that TNG managed to do better than TOS.

 

[Jack Bauer]

It's one of my favorite episodes. And since one of the writers is a poster here the "smoking crack" crack is quite inappropriate.

 

[Saul]

chardman said:
I agree. Which is why I wonder if the OP's over-the-top hatred of the episode might not be completely genuine, and may instead be feigned solely as an attempted jab at Dennis.

The episode did have rewrites by other writing staff.
If it's a jab it's a rather crude one compared to the Jabs Dennis deals out on a daily basis.