Timo's Hobbyist's Guide to the UFP Starfleet

[Avro Arrow]

Just as a PS I know that Bellerophon has them at his website, but you can't download them. I guess the best option is to use a web stripping tool and download them that way?

Pardon? I downloaded them. Just click the "Pop-Out" button in the upper-right corner of each embedded PDF, and it will open the PDF from Google Docs in a new window/tab, and then you can use the regular "download" button as per normal. No special software or tools required!

 

[jdurdan]

Hi Avro,
Maybe it's because I am using the latest build of Windows 10 Anniversary but that doesn't work for me. Microsoft Edge is a little funky. IT still worked out for me though, I took a look at the HTML code for that page and found the Google Docs directory that they were stored in. Took a little more work that click and download but I learned a few thing about Google Docs. I now have them in my Google Docs folder and if anyone has interest I can share them from there. Timo's is still the best reference, but I like FSC's pretty pictures!

 

[Avro Arrow]

^ Ah, OK, I've never used Win10 or Edge, so I can't offer any comments on that. I'm glad that it worked out for you and you were still able to get the documents, though!

 

[SicOne]

Love the new additions of Ural, Apollo, and Merian and Luna!

 

[publiusr]

Great art indeed. Hey Pocket Books!

 

[RedForman]

Apologies to all if I'm unduly bumping this thread, but I found some FSC resources you might find interesting (have been hanging around in the fan film subsection and haven't gotten out to explore other parts of the BBS too much)

First is a combined/condensed Federation edition (link), an early draft of his guide in a new format? (link) and his 'Guide to the Klingon Fleet' (link).

Love your work though Timo, some of the most interesting reference reading I've come across in a long time!

 

[thesonofodin]

Timo, anything new?

 

[Timo]

Oops, only noticed this now...

So, new versions up at the old link. A couple of things in the first part:

- An entry on the Franklin, under the class name Pioneer and postulating that only certain individual ships from that class got to play the role of warp engine testbeds; that the Franklin did a good job at breaking warp four, and then retired for the duration of the Romulan War; and that she later did a poorer job at trying to break her old records ("pushing the frontier"), ending up creating her very own wormhole and landing inside an Altamid mountaintop. No MACO connection whatsoever, and a good emphasis on her having been designed specifically with planetary operations in mind (with the blatant lift engines, the good show she actually puts up in the movie, etc)...

- A bit of closure on Axanar, with an entry on the Ares, and a sorting out of details, registries and timelines on those Tobias Richter versions of the Kelvin Universe ships; these affect the Richter/Heston entry.

- Oh, and I renamed that fancy split-bows FASA Romulan War cruiser I used to call Dauntless into Achilles, for lack of an available and appropriate canon or fanon name. Don't know what I was thinking originally - I already had a different way of giving UFP Starfleet an inaugural USS Dauntless, NCC-01. The Triton/Intrepid entry has refinements to this end.

If anybody knows of a nice fanon name that could go with the Richter Axanar ships that all have Russian names (to replace Richter), or another to go with a Romulan War cruiser (to replace Achilles - and I want her to be an Earth ship rather than an Andorian one, even though other sources have opted for the latter and Memory Beta reports this), just chime in.

Apart from the graphics, I guess I'm finally satisfied with the ship part of the Guide being up to date on the eras covered by canon Trek. The shuttles need a bit more work, though. Oh, and I was planning on glossing over the "Columbia refit" thing on the NX class, but the new novels make such a big deal out of it that I'll probably have to bite after all. Let's see what perverted interpretation I can come up with.

When STiscovery premiers, I'll also have to come up with a way to connect the design to the shuttlecarriers of that shape. And it might be worth the while to reshuffle all the early registries so that Starfleet in 2161 actually starts out with ships from NCC-01 all the way to NX-236 at least; there are no major showstoppers there, just a few 200-range aridas sofia registries I'll be sorry to ditch.

Edit: STiscovery... Well, well. An omen of some sort?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Timo]

...Went and sorted out the "Columbia refit" thing while I was at it. And yes, I found an image of the STXI version of Kobayashi Maru as revealed in the updated Encyclopedia. The entry (Ishinomaki) is suitably adjusted.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[thesonofodin]

Timo, can it be any Russian name or do you have a preference? Also, thank you for the update, excellent work as always.

 

[Timo]

I'm just hoping against hope for anything the established fandom material (that is, something printed in the 20th century) might have introduced. If not a class named after a cosmonaut, then perhaps something like Glenn class or Carpenter class or whatnot. Failing that, I'm happy to replace Richter with Kirbuk, just for the heck of it.

(Anybody know where Kirbuk came from? That is, why did it become Kirbuk for the movie?)

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Transzendor]

It's "Kubrick" spelled backwards.

 

[Transzendor]

^ Sort of.

 

[Timo]

...There a "Doh!" emoticon somewhere? Oh, well, will have to do.

Perhaps the idea was to wean out all romance from the movie, save for whatever Floyd and Yakunina were having? So Orlova couldn't be married, least of all to a fellow crewman. Or she should be available to Floyd for that obligatory romantic tension, or whatever?

Okay, next step, reshuffling all the registries so that NX-326 gets used up in the 2160s already.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Transzendor]

Perhaps the idea was to wean out all romance from the movie, save for whatever Floyd and Yakunina were having? So Orlova couldn't be married, least of all to a fellow crewman. Or she should be available to Floyd for that obligatory romantic tension, or whatever?

The Odyssey File by Arthur C. Clarke & Peter Hyams (Del Rey, 1984) reproduces some of the e-mail correspondence between ACC and PH during 2010's script development, but as it has been over thirty years since I last read the (exceedingly slim) volume I honestly cannot recall if that particular decision was mentioned.

 

[Albertese]

The Odyssey File by Arthur C. Clarke & Peter Hyams (Del Rey, 1984) reproduces some of the e-mail correspondence between ACC and PH during 2010's script development, but as it has been over thirty years since I last read the (exceedingly slim) volume I honestly cannot recall if that particular decision was mentioned.

They were E-MAILING each other prior to 1984? I admit I was just a kid in those days, but I always supposed e-mail was an invention of the 1990s. I could be wrong, though. If anyone would have been an early adopter of e-mail it would be Arthur C. Clark.

--Alex

 

[Timo]

Odyssey File is about 90% Kaypro portable * computer commercial and 10% the story of Clarke disagreeing with Hyams on everything 2010 but being polite about it...

Timo Saloniemi

* That is, porters are involved. Heavily.

 

[B.J.]

They were E-MAILING each other prior to 1984? I admit I was just a kid in those days, but I always supposed e-mail was an invention of the 1990s. I could be wrong, though. If anyone would have been an early adopter of e-mail it would be Arthur C. Clark.

You're thinking of the web/HTML. That got its start in the '90s, but email has been around since the '60s.

 

[Idran]

You're thinking of the web/HTML. That got its start in the '90s, but email has been around since the '60s.

It was still a bit more cutting edge than that for Clarke, to be fair; electronic mail applications have been around since the 60s, but they were strictly LAN-based until the late-70s because there wasn't a network infrastructure in place to support it until then. Electronic mail over wide-area networks wasn't really available at all until 1978, and commercial email wasn't available on the internet until 1983.

 

[Timo]

Okay, I redid the registries so that anything between NCC-01 and NCC-299 is either a war veteran adopted into UFP Starfleet, or borne of a project launched before there was a UFP Starfleet proper. Anything between NCC-300 and 399 is a veteran vessel assigned a new peacetime role, chiefly in testing. True newbuilds then only start around NCC-400 and the very late 22nd century.

This means aridas sofia's ships can't retain their NCC registries. Since there was a new aridas class after a dozen or so numbers anyway, indicating unpleasantly short production runs for fairly small and thus hopefully numerous vessels, I shunted all of those into letter-prefixed categories: the assorted clippers in the problematic 300 range get L for local defenses or I for intel, and alternately so, allowing each class to be more numerous than if they were part of the same continuum.

Yadda yadda. The only thing really affected is the Podish class in Part II. Sure, it gets the PB-25 engine in the 2210s, but only by virtue of having been a testbed since the founding of the Federation, just like poor Franklin was.

Timo Saloniemi