Timeline proof.

[Timofnine]

Is No not universally understood?

I thought that there may have been a subtle under text to the clip which only Star Wars fans would understand. I mean, what could possibly go wrong with an actual fan running the show? Imagine employing a non fan as a show runner???

If I was really against something, such as the fans running the show (or vice versa, a non-fan), I would have used this clip to demonstrate my frustrations (as this is the only Star Trek ‘no’ clip that I can find):

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Out of curiosity, did the guy in the Star Wars clip ‘break any little ships’ after his Nooooo…! rage like Picard did? If he did so, he probably would not have done so as dramatically and Oscar worthy as Patrick Stewart did in First Contact.

 

[fireproof78]

I thought that there may have been a subtle under text to the clip which only Star Wars fans would understand

No.

Imagine employing a non fan as a show runner???

Good.

 

[Timofnine]

No.


Good.

Yes， Ma’am!

 

[JoseNoodles]

Do you have an equivalent Star Trek clip to demonstrate the same meme in a context that those who have never seen Star Wars may understand?

I think that it would be great if the fans ran the show, so I Bi…Googled for a Star Trek ‘Yes’ clip instead of a Star Wars ‘No’ clip.

I found this clip of every single time that Tom Paris has said “Yes ma’am”.

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Do we want the fans to run this show?

Yes Ma’am!

Perhaps I would have found a better clip if I would have searched on Bing instead of Google, but it still gets the point across I think.

Here's all I could muster

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[Ovation]

Do we want the fans to run this show?

No. “We” don’t.

 

[fireproof78]

No. “We” don’t.

Should we vote?

 

[Timofnine]

Should we vote?

Ok, sure.

 

[The Wormhole]

Imagine employing a non fan as a show runner???

You could end up with a damn good show. TWOK is considered by many to be the best Trek movie and that had non-fans in all the movie's key creative positions.

 

[Tuskin38]

Rick Berman wasn't a Star Trek fan either. That's why Gene hired him, he didn't want someone who was deeply familiar with the show.

I believe he's said that before he was hired for TNG, the only Trek he watched was one of the TOS movies.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Hiring a non-fan to make Star Trek is the same as it is as hiring a fan. It's a crapshoot either way.

 

[Pauln6]

They're not going to undo the destruction of Romulus. Kurtzman worked on that movie.

Gallifrey called. They want their wormhole and pocket dimension back. There are definitely ways that Romulus COULD be restored. Another would be an alternate universe Romulus/Remus/star being shunted into our universe from a partially successful intervention in a parallel universe. We know that red matter portals mess with time so it is entirely plausible.

You are correct to state that they almost certainly aren't going to do that, however.

 

[The Wormhole]

Gallifrey called.

Last I checked, Gallifrey has since been destroyed again. And don't expect RTD to undo that while he's in charge of the franchise.

 

[Pauln6]

Last I checked, Gallifrey has since been destroyed again. And don't expect RTD to undo that while he's in charge of the franchise.

Yeah Dr Who yo-yos back and forth. Gallifrey has been destroyed more often than Davros. Still, the point remains: the planet was believed destroyed beyond all doubt and the Doctor said he would know if any of his people had survived (despite countless Time Lords existing in the past as well as the future). Then it wasn't destroyed after all.

Then it was again.

 

[JcarlA]

There is absolutely zero proof.


There is only 1 timeline; TOS-VOY + movies 1-Nemesis. Everything else is non-canonic slop that started from enterprise and continues to this day, and the star wars inspired reboot films.

I consider the events depicted in SNW s2,e3 as the perfect answer for my starting this thread in the first place, and the case closed, (as far as I'm concerned).

 

[Lord Garth]

After thinking about this, and not being able to fall asleep, I've now come to the conclusion that there are four main timelines.

Classic Timeline: TOS through FC
Then the Borg go back in time to 2063, which creates the...

Pheonix Timeline: ENT in the "past", FC through PIC in the "present" (from a 2401 point of view)
Centuries later, the Temporal Cold War happens, followed by all-out actual Temporal War; which creates the...

Disco Timeline: DSC S1-S2 and SNW in the "past", DSC S3-S5 in the "present" (from a 3188+ point of view)

In Pheonix 2387, Nero goes back in time and creates Kelvin 2233, which leads to the...
Kelvin Timeline: The three JJ Abrams Movies

By the 32nd Century, the Kelvin Timeline and the Disco Timeline are pretty far apart from each other.

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.
.
.

So, what goes where?

Classic: TOS, TAS, TMP-TUC ... (time skip) ... TNG, DS9 S1-S5, VOY S1-S3, GEN-FC
Pheonix: ENT ... (time skip) ... FC-NEM, DS9 S5-S7, VOY S3-S7, LD, PRO, PIC
Disco: DSC S1-S2, SNW ... (time skip) ... DSC S3+
Kelvin: Self-Explanatory

That killed some time. How the Hell am I still not tired?

Anyway, like I said before, it's become like how they do it in comics. I could've made TOS and TAS a fifth timeline, but I can't think of a time-travel incident that would cause such a split, so I didn't.

Probably a good time to mention I'm also a huge fan of Back to the Future. I love all of them, but Part II is my favorite. Bet you never would've guessed.

For me, unlike others, this is all still fun. It's like a mind game. I don't let it take over my enjoyment of what I'm watching. So please take this all in the spirit it's intended in. Thanks!

 

[James Cole]

^^ Would put yet another new spin on TATV (after the novelverse using unreliable narrator to alter Trip's fate) vis a vis TNG.

Might just be easier to treat FC as a predestination paradox.

 

[Stewey]

After thinking about this, and not being able to fall asleep, I've now come to the conclusion that there are four main timelines.

Classic Timeline: TOS through FC
Then the Borg go back in time to 2063, which creates the...

Pheonix Timeline: ENT in the "past", FC through PIC in the "present" (from a 2401 point of view)
Centuries later, the Temporal Cold War happens, followed by all-out actual Temporal War; which creates the...

Disco Timeline: DSC S1-S2 and SNW in the "past", DSC S3-S5 in the "present" (from a 3188+ point of view)

In Pheonix 2387, Nero goes back in time and creates Kelvin 2233, which leads to the...
Kelvin Timeline: The three JJ Abrams Movies

By the 32nd Century, the Kelvin Timeline and the Disco Timeline are pretty far apart from each other.

.
.
.
.

So, what goes where?

Classic: TOS, TAS, TMP-TUC ... (time skip) ... TNG, DS9 S1-S5, VOY S1-S3, GEN-FC
Pheonix: ENT ... (time skip) ... FC-NEM, DS9 S5-S7, VOY S3-S7, LD, PRO, PIC
Disco: DSC S1-S2, SNW ... (time skip) ... DSC S3+
Kelvin: Self-Explanatory

That killed some time. How the Hell am I still not tired?

Anyway, like I said before, it's become like how they do it in comics. I could've made TOS and TAS a fifth timeline, but I can't think of a time-travel incident that would cause such a split, so I didn't.

Probably a good time to mention I'm also a huge fan of Back to the Future. I love all of them, but Part II is my favorite. Bet you never would've guessed.

For me, unlike others, this is all still fun. It's like a mind game. I don't let it take over my enjoyment of what I'm watching. So please take this all in the spirit it's intended in. Thanks!

Slight problem; trials and tribulations happened during season 5 ds9, u put season 5 as both in the classic and also phoenix timeline.

 

[Tomalak]

But happily for this theory, Trials and Tribble-ations happens before the First Contact temporal incursion.

 

[StarMan]

There has only ever been one timeline. Even the supposed 'Kelvinverse' is part of the same shared reality.

It all makes perfect sense when considered from a 5th dimensional POV.

 

[Pauln6]

There has only ever been one timeline. Even the supposed 'Kelvinverse' is part of the same shared reality.

It all makes perfect sense when considered from a 5th dimensional POV.

Actually, I think you need 9 or 10 dimensions. Some mathematicians and theoretical physicists have worked it out.