Timeline branching going forward *spoilers*

[David.Blue]

Well, if Carol Marcus ends up with anyone other than Kirk, that is something. Ditto Uhura staying with Spock.

The destruction of Vulcan is BIG. Or it could be. Should be.

One can imagine something impressive happening if the Doomsday Machine is discovered sooner. Who knows what civilization might have been destroyed before it ran into the Constellation? Maybe somebody who'd make a major impact on the timeline?

Gary Mitchell. He's presumably still alive out there somewhere. But without godlike powers that warp his personality.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Logic dictates that timeline branching happened when Sphere-bulders got the Xindi to attack Earth, and that's the timeline Nero's (Spock's) wormhole led to, not the one TOS took place in.

Unless, from TOS' perspective, those changes were always a part of history. After all, there was no big Delphic Expanse in TOS or TNG. Why? The NX-01 crew ended it.

 

[Praetor]

Just like the guy who invented transparent aluminum in TVH.

 

[Mach5]

Unless, from TOS' perspective, those changes were always a part of history.

From the in-universe standpoint, there's absolutely 0 evidence to support that, whilst evidence to the contrary is there in abundance.

 

[Kruezerman]

Where honey?

 

[Robert_T_April]

I doubt anyone would believe Kirk would stay dead. Even if Kirk had stayed dead in STID, we'd spend the next 3 years with threads on how he's coming back, even more accusations of copying and rehashing etc etc
And of course Pine is signed for 2 more movies.

So Pine is signed on for 4 movies?

 

[Yanks]

I doubt anyone would believe Kirk would stay dead. Even if Kirk had stayed dead in STID, we'd spend the next 3 years with threads on how he's coming back, even more accusations of copying and rehashing etc etc
And of course Pine is signed for 2 more movies.

So Pine is signed on for 4 movies?

I thought it was 3, but I'd be happy with 4!

 

[Sindatur]

I doubt anyone would believe Kirk would stay dead. Even if Kirk had stayed dead in STID, we'd spend the next 3 years with threads on how he's coming back, even more accusations of copying and rehashing etc etc
And of course Pine is signed for 2 more movies.

So Pine is signed on for 4 movies?

I thought it was 3, but I'd be happy with 4!

Original deal was for a Trilogy. Lately, people have been saying he's signed for 2 more. Not sure if they're going on old info, or if he signed for 1 more, or maybe the Contract said 3 with an option for 1 more? But, yea, it's become popular info that he's signed for 2 more.

 

[Yanks]

So Pine is signed on for 4 movies?

I thought it was 3, but I'd be happy with 4!

Original deal was for a Trilogy. Lately, people have been saying he's signed for 2 more. Not sure if they're going on old info, or if he signed for 1 more, or maybe the Contract said 3 with an option for 1 more? But, yea, it's become popular info that he's signed for 2 more.

Cool, I'm sure everyone else would follow suit.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Unless, from TOS' perspective, those changes were always a part of history.

From the in-universe standpoint, there's absolutely 0 evidence to support that, whilst evidence to the contrary is there in abundance.

There is no evidence to the contrary.

This is not a new timeline, it's the prime timeline that was affected by Nero's incursion.

Actually, it IS a new timeline. It branches off from the prime one, but doesn't replace it.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Unless, from TOS' perspective, those changes were always a part of history.

From the in-universe standpoint, there's absolutely 0 evidence to support that, whilst evidence to the contrary is there in abundance.

I don't recall any TOS, Next Gen or DS9 episodes where the gravity was freaking out or any of the other associated weirdness, indicating there was no Delphic Expanse. I also remember a couple of direct crossovers with TOS in "In a Mirror, Darkly" and TNG in "These are the Voyages". Conclusion? One timeline, and no Expanse because it was destroyed in "Zero Hour". Anything else requires bending over backwards to dismiss the above ("Those were alternate but VERY similar timelines too...honest!" etc)

 

[Yanks]

This is not a new timeline, it's the prime timeline that was affected by Nero's incursion.

Actually, it IS a new timeline. It branches off from the prime one, but doesn't replace it.

Please provide a canon reference or any evidence in ST09 that corroberates that.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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"alternate reality" is used in "In a Mirror, Darkly" by T'Pol to refer to the prime universe, a concurrently existing timeline to the mirror one.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

This is not a new timeline, it's the prime timeline that was affected by Nero's incursion.

Actually, it IS a new timeline. It branches off from the prime one, but doesn't replace it.

Please provide a canon reference or any evidence in ST09 that corroberates that.

The writers of the film have said so. That's good enough for me.

 

[DonIago]

Also "Parallels" quite explicitly demonstrates the existence of alternate timelines.

 

[Mach5]

Also "Parallels" quite explicitly demonstrates the existence of alternate timelines.

But it also explicitly demonstrates the possibility of traveling between them, which in Orci's interpretation of multiverses isn't possible. In Trek, that is. Fringe is a whole different story.

 

[DonIago]

Howso? Spock and Nero travel between them.

 

[Mach5]

Howso? Spock and Nero travel between them.

They do not. Nero creates it, Spock follows him through the same portal (black hole), and it's a one way trip.

 

[Kruezerman]

You still haven't answered my question. What proof do you have?

 

[DonIago]

Howso? Spock and Nero travel between them.

They do not. Nero creates it, Spock follows him through the same portal (black hole), and it's a one way trip.

I don't recall anyone saying at any point that Spock and Nero couldn't possibly return to their timeline of origination. It would likely be extremely difficult of course.

Heck, for all we know the Red Matter hole created at the end of the film leads back to the Primeline.