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"Measure of a Man" was a bit overrated. It raised a good ethical issue and did it well, but that alone doesn't make it a top tier 10/10 episode imo.
 
Apparently another "unpopular" Star Trek opinion (at least on these boards) is that I liked Berman and Braga era trek. I loved TNG and DS9. (not so much Voyager). I wish the powers that be would make a new series based of the Prime TNG universe, preferably after Nemesis. All I see on these boards are people ripping Berman Trek and how awful it was. I greatly enjoyed it, and enough people must have also in order to get 7 seasons of TNG and spinoffs DS9, VOy and ENT. That was the Trek I grew up with and I would love to see more with a modern slant.
 
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The music of TOS can be melodramatic, overbearing, and repetitive. Almost as bad as the dreary, bland music of 90's post Ron Jones Trek.

Scotty can be annoying.

William Shatner, Deforest Kelly, and George Takai were the best actors on TOS.

The bridge of the Ent on TWOK looks like shit compared to bridge we saw in TMP.

The movie era uniforms from TWOK onwards are ridiculous. They look like dress uniforms and are't very believable as 23rd century standard uniforms.
I agree on the TWOK uniforms.

As for the bridge, I think the only difference was the darker colors for a warmer appearance.
TMP had a stark white "iBridge" way before the Abrams movies.

Kor
 
Apparently another "unpopular" Star Trek opinion (at least on these boards) is that I liked Berman and Braga era trek. I loved TNG and DS9. (not so much Voyager).

I wouldn't say that's an unpopular opinion. Voyager is the controversial one, but pretty much everyone likes TNG and (for the most part) DS9.
 
I like DS9 and TNG quite a bit. I just don't like them as much as TOS.

That said- I had no desire to see the "post Nemesis" series. None.

Apparently another "unpopular" Star Trek opinion (at least on these boards) is that I liked Berman and Braga era trek. I loved TNG and DS9. (not so much Voyager). I wish the powers that be would make a new series based of the Prime TNG universe, preferably after Nemesis. All I see on these boards are people ripping Berman Trek and how awful it was. I greatly enjoyed it, and enough people must have also in order to get 7 seasons of TNG and spinoffs DS9, VOy and ENT. That was the Trek I grew up with and I would love to see more with a modern slant.

I wouldn't say that's an unpopular opinion. Voyager is the controversial one, but pretty much everyone likes TNG and (for the most part) DS9.
 
I'm fed up with the Klingons.

I reached Klingon Saturation Point about three series' ago and it's only getting worse the more they're shoehorned in (especially with their new look). I want to new civilisation and aliens, not just repeats of those who have already had more than enough stories about them.
 
I was really happy to see lens flares in Discovery. I think I posted that here before but I'm dead serious that I really dig lens flares.

Also love the Klingons in DSC. Love the look, subtitles, and the way the actors delivered their lines like they'd been speaking Klingon their whole lives.

Couldn't care less about a post-NEM series unless a story concept gave me a reason to care.
 
For me, Next Generation had a fairly short period where it was intermittently of high quality, and that period started late in season 1, and ended halfway through the run of the show, in season 4. I think the high quality impression after that point comes from polish, smoke and mirrors basically, a sense of maturity and competence coming more from acting style and a comfortable look to the show, and familiarity with the characters. This got them through years of bland scripts with no interesting or challenging ideas. It all just gave a reassuring impression of high quality, rather than actual quality.
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Voyager, as "safe" a show as it often seemed to be, and despite an awful 2nd season, had more vitality and maturity and human feeling throughout almost all of its run, than Next Gen had for the last half of its time on the air at least. Voyager is not really how I want Trek to be, but it's sincere and true to itself. Next Gen spent years going through the motions.
 
For me, Next Generation had a fairly short period where it was intermittently of high quality, and that period started late in season 1, and ended halfway through the run of the show, in season 4. I think the high quality impression after that point comes from polish, smoke and mirrors basically, a sense of maturity and competence coming more from acting style and a comfortable look to the show, and familiarity with the characters. This got them through years of bland scripts with no interesting or challenging ideas. It all just gave a reassuring impression of high quality, rather than actual quality.
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Voyager, as "safe" a show as it often seemed to be, and despite an awful 2nd season, had more vitality and maturity and human feeling throughout almost all of its run, than Next Gen had for the last half of its time on the air at least. Voyager is not really how I want Trek to be, but it's sincere and true to itself. Next Gen spent years going through the motions.
Honestly I kind of agree with you about TNG. TNG certainly has some very high highs. Like, episodes of genuine achievement. But between those high highs, so many episodes are just kinda middling. I prefer my Trek to at least try something different, to reach, even if it fails, rather than play it safe. I know not everyone felt this way, but I thought ENT was bold, and I love it for that.
 
Honestly I kind of agree with you about TNG. TNG certainly has some very high highs. Like, episodes of genuine achievement. But between those high highs, so many episodes are just kinda middling. I prefer my Trek to at least try something different, to reach, even if it fails, rather than play it safe. I know not everyone felt this way, but I thought ENT was bold, and I love it for that.
Maybe it was, but it's hard for me to tell if the events are interesting if the dialogue, the actual wording, doesn't grab me. People who love ENT will talk about cool things that take place in it. It flies past me and I don't remember the events happened, because the words didn't get me to care. The dialogue was flat and simply functional, telling us what was happening, moving plot along, and nothing more. So I didn't feel I was seeing real people, and personalities, and human drama.
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I do agree about wanting them to take risks rather than playing it safe, even if they stumble sometimes. So I much prefer those seasons of Next Gen I mentioned, especially season 2, my favorite. Like season 3, it's half great and half not, but s2's low points attract more attention than s3's because they're more overtly strange or silly. I contend that s3 badness is as bad as s2 badness... the only difference being that s3 covers itself better, since its mistakes just make the episodes bland and pointless, rather than overtly offensive. Blandness is really as offensive as anything else.
 
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I like TOS fine, but TNG and DS9 beat it for me in every way, its no contest. Also, I far prefer the TOS Movies to the series, since I like the characterization of the older characters better. This doesn't mean I don't like TOS, I do, I just consider it the weakest of the Trek shows I'd say are solid to great. VOY and ENT are a mixed bag, so for me that puts them under TOS.

TOS seems to be the show that gets the most nostalgia and inspires the new Trek nowadays, but I'll always love those two spinoffs much more.

Another weird opinion I have is that I like Ezri Dax a lot as a character. I thought she was a solid replacement for Jadzia, who I thought was ok but who was easily my least favorite Starfleet cast member of DS9 and really only beat Jake as least favorite regular (not that she was bad, just second least favorite in a great cast).
 
Liking Ezri is not weird! :D
I loved Ezri - I am a big Nicole De Boer fan since her time on "Deepwater Black" and since in "The Dead Zone". When I heard she was going to be the new Dax, I was very excited, and as a series-long Jadzia/Terry fan, while I was upset to see her die/leave, I was looking forward to seeing what Nicole did as a new character. I wasn't disappointed. Some people argue that there were too man Ezri-centric shows in the final season, but it WAS the final season, and I can understand the desire to flesh out a new character and explore the established world from her perspective.

Confession #1 - despite it's apparent popularity, at least according to Memory Alpha, I'm not a fan of "Similitude" from Season 3 ENT. I admit, it's been a while since I watched it, but I was scrolling through the episodes on Netflix, and I immediately knew I did not want to watch that one straight away.
Confession #2 - the first time I watched "Threshold" from Season 2 VOY, I actually really liked it... but as time went by, I realized that was not the case generally. Looking back now, I can see why it's vieiwed badly and mostly ignored.
 
Honestly I kind of agree with you about TNG. TNG certainly has some very high highs. Like, episodes of genuine achievement. But between those high highs, so many episodes are just kinda middling. I prefer my Trek to at least try something different, to reach, even if it fails, rather than play it safe. I know not everyone felt this way, but I thought ENT was bold, and I love it for that.

Interesting fact (and another admission for this thread):

I can't get through a TNG rewatch. I have the entire series on BR. It's a chore for me to watch it. It's almost like I need to force myself...like "this is good for me...I really should do this!"

I binge-watched ENT in about 2 months.

So...hmmmm....
 
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