Long live Pres. Palmer!Does this really matter? I've seen black actors as presidents before Obama got into office. My point is, black, white, or khaki, no one should really care.
Long live Pres. Palmer!Does this really matter? I've seen black actors as presidents before Obama got into office. My point is, black, white, or khaki, no one should really care.
Long live Pres. Palmer!Does this really matter? I've seen black actors as presidents before Obama got into office. My point is, black, white, or khaki, no one should really care.
Nimoy's Jewish. His ancestors gained a bit of fame wandering in a desert. He dark enough?I'm guessing that Russ aced the audition, and due to him being black the producers simply thought "what the hey, let's have a black Vulcan".
I never understood how Vulcans are, or even should be, multi-racial like humans. All of Vulcan is hot and arid, or so we have been shown in many of the series. So really all Vulcans should be dark-skinned.
Nimoy's Jewish. His ancestors gained a bit of fame wandering in a desert. He dark enough?I'm guessing that Russ aced the audition, and due to him being black the producers simply thought "what the hey, let's have a black Vulcan".
I never understood how Vulcans are, or even should be, multi-racial like humans. All of Vulcan is hot and arid, or so we have been shown in many of the series. So really all Vulcans should be dark-skinned.
Wow, I totally forgot that!!!Long live Pres. Palmer!Does this really matter? I've seen black actors as presidents before Obama got into office. My point is, black, white, or khaki, no one should really care.
Which one? 24 had two President Palmers - the first, and then his brother.
Plus from my understanding, isn't being Jewish a religious following and not a race? I mean Pearl Bailey & Sammy Davis jr. were Jewish too.Nimoy's Jewish. His ancestors gained a bit of fame wandering in a desert. He dark enough?I'm guessing that Russ aced the audition, and due to him being black the producers simply thought "what the hey, let's have a black Vulcan".
I never understood how Vulcans are, or even should be, multi-racial like humans. All of Vulcan is hot and arid, or so we have been shown in many of the series. So really all Vulcans should be dark-skinned.
Nimoy is white, and a lot of European-descent Jews look just like other Europeans. Shatner is Jewish also, and obviously is white also.
Not really. There's Jewish ethnicity, Jewish nation, and Jewish religion (i.e. Judaism). Ethnicity and religion may overlap but don't always.Plus from my understanding, isn't being Jewish a religious following and not a race? I mean Pearl Bailey & Sammy Davis jr. were Jewish too.
So why aren't the Tuaregs black? They are desert-dwellers, so, according to you, they should be all as dark-skinned as humans get. How about the other Berbers, or Arabs, from the desert areas of North Africa and Middle East?The second Palmer was awful, he surely means the first.
About black vulcans, as many has said before there is no reason for vulcans to have different skin colours, since the planet seems to be a gigantic desert. They should all be black, though, since white pigment can't stand that much sunlight.
Plus from my understanding, isn't being Jewish a religious following and not a race? I mean Pearl Bailey & Sammy Davis jr. were Jewish too.Nimoy's Jewish. His ancestors gained a bit of fame wandering in a desert. He dark enough?
Nimoy is white, and a lot of European-descent Jews look just like other Europeans. Shatner is Jewish also, and obviously is white also.
Ok.Not really. There's Jewish ethnicity, Jewish nation, and Jewish religion (i.e. Judaism). Ethnicity and religion may overlap but don't always.Plus from my understanding, isn't being Jewish a religious following and not a race? I mean Pearl Bailey & Sammy Davis jr. were Jewish too.
"White" people and Europeans can't have dark skin?????Nimoy's Jewish. His ancestors gained a bit of fame wandering in a desert. He dark enough?I'm guessing that Russ aced the audition, and due to him being black the producers simply thought "what the hey, let's have a black Vulcan".
I never understood how Vulcans are, or even should be, multi-racial like humans. All of Vulcan is hot and arid, or so we have been shown in many of the series. So really all Vulcans should be dark-skinned.
Nimoy is white, and a lot of European-descent Jews look just like other Europeans. Shatner is Jewish also, and obviously is white also.
"White" people and Europeans can't have dark skin?????Nimoy's Jewish. His ancestors gained a bit of fame wandering in a desert. He dark enough?
Nimoy is white, and a lot of European-descent Jews look just like other Europeans. Shatner is Jewish also, and obviously is white also.
That's ok, it alright to be off the mark."White" people and Europeans can't have dark skin?????Nimoy is white, and a lot of European-descent Jews look just like other Europeans. Shatner is Jewish also, and obviously is white also.
How many native Europeans have dark skin, akin to an African-American like Tim Russ? Mediterreanen people are slightly darker than northern Europeans, but all are still classed as white.
Besides, I don't see how my initial point was any way off the mark. Making references to the Exodus, well i'm lost.. lol
In real life, tropical regions have different climates to temperate regions, this is a no brainer. So since we've been led to believe that all of Vulcan is arid and warm, then it cannot be exact. There cannot be that much of a difference in skin colour between black Vulcans and white Vulcans, compared to black humans and white humans.
But we don't know enough about the planetary or humaniod evolution of Vulcan to be sure that temperate zones did not exist in the past and gave rise to fairer skinned Vulcans. As I said there are people living in or near the Deserts, who skin tone is the same as Nimoy, whose ancestors have lived there for thousands of years. Similarly there are folks in Europe who have lived there for thousands of years who have a darker skintone than their neighbors."White" people and Europeans can't have dark skin?????Nimoy is white, and a lot of European-descent Jews look just like other Europeans. Shatner is Jewish also, and obviously is white also.
How many native Europeans have dark skin, akin to an African-American like Tim Russ? Mediterreanen people are slightly darker than northern Europeans, but all are still classed as white.
Besides, I don't see how my initial point was any way off the mark. Making references to the Exodus, well i'm lost.. lol
In real life, tropical regions have different climates to temperate regions, this is a no brainer. So since we've been led to believe that all of Vulcan is arid and warm, then it cannot be exact. There cannot be that much of a difference in skin colour between black Vulcans and white Vulcans, compared to black humans and white humans.
What do you mean? Why wouldn't anybody care?My point is, black, white, or khaki, no one should really care.
Not really. There's Jewish ethnicity, Jewish nation, and Jewish religion (i.e. Judaism). Ethnicity and religion may overlap but don't always.Plus from my understanding, isn't being Jewish a religious following and not a race? I mean Pearl Bailey & Sammy Davis jr. were Jewish too.
So why aren't the Tuaregs black? They are desert-dwellers, so, according to you, they should be all as dark-skinned as humans get. How about the other Berbers, or Arabs, from the desert areas of North Africa and Middle East?The second Palmer was awful, he surely means the first.
About black vulcans, as many has said before there is no reason for vulcans to have different skin colours, since the planet seems to be a gigantic desert. They should all be black, though, since white pigment can't stand that much sunlight.
Odo ital already addressed this in the very first reply of this thread. I believe Tim Russ also supports it interviews on why he got the part of Tuvok.What do you mean? Why wouldn't anybody care?My point is, black, white, or khaki, no one should really care.
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A interesting question might be, Tim Russ the actor was black, but was Tuvok?
Resently I went to the play The Tragedy of Hamlet by William Shakespeare, the actor portraying the lead part of Hamlet was black, even through the character of Hamlet is white (Hamlet is southern Nordic).
Could Tim Russ be depicting someone who isn't black?
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