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Spoilers Thoughts on the 70th Anniversary? (serious & not so serious)

The problem here is there's a whole extra set of legalities in place which prevents the modern series from referencing the Cushing movies, as proven when Moffat had to excise the reference to them from Day of the Doctor at the last minute.
Damn, I didn't know about that. It's too bad Moffat had to remove the reference. Do you know what the reference and where it happened?

Oh, you're probably thinking of Wayne Pygram in Revenge of the Sith. Calling that a "performance" is probably being generous though, he literally just stood there for ten seconds or so. It's only because of the credits we know that was even supposed to be Tarkin.
Didn't Pygram record some dialogue and then it was cut for time (or some other reason)? A pity because any Farscape fan knows, he would've been an excellent Tarkin.
 
Ah! So even referring to the movies as quasi-canonical "historical fiction" works would be out of line. Too bad.
I thought they did use an actor who resembled Cushing in an earlier Star Wars effort, but I may be mistaken.

The BBC should just buy the rights to the Cushing movies outright, then package them with the McGann movie and sell it as the Who movie collection, hell they could fund the third Cushing movie but tweak it for McGann's doctor and more uptodate, so two movies each for Cushing and McGann, symmetry. :)
 
Oh, you're probably thinking of Wayne Pygram in Revenge of the Sith. Calling that a "performance" is probably being generous though, he literally just stood there for ten seconds or so. It's only because of the credits we know that was even supposed to be Tarkin.
It was obviously supposed to be Tarkin, given that they were all looking at the Death Star.
 
Damn, I didn't know about that. It's too bad Moffat had to remove the reference. Do you know what the reference and where it happened?
IIRC, it was really minor, something like the posters for the movies were supposed to be hanging on the wall of the UNIT Black Archives. In the novelization of Day of the Doctor written by Moffat in 2018 there's a reference to an image of Cushing being on the wall, though instead of referencing Cushing's Doctor Who movies, we instead get a meta reference to his appearance in Rogue One. In the novelization, Clara points to a photo and asks "is that...?" Kate answers "Peter Cushing? Yes, he travelled with the Doctor briefly, even got to star in movies made well after his death as a result."
 
Ah! So even referring to the movies as quasi-canonical "historical fiction" works would be out of line. Too bad.
I thought they did use an actor who resembled Cushing in an earlier Star Wars effort, but I may be mistaken.
The guy who played Henrik Hansen in Holby City, Guy Henry. Did motion capture and voice imitation for Rogue One.
 
IIRC, ...
. In the novelization, Clara points to a photo and asks "is that...?" Kate answers "Peter Cushing? Yes, he travelled with the Doctor briefly, even got to star in movies made well after his death as a result."

Okay, so what I proposed earlier could "canonize" this bit of history, and forevermore explain the dissonant Amicus films.
 
The guy who played Henrik Hansen in Holby City, Guy Henry. Did motion capture and voice imitation for Rogue One.
He was also chosen because of his resemblance and voice just in case the CG Tarkin didn't work out.

Didn't Pygram record some dialogue and then it was cut for time (or some other reason)? A pity because any Farscape fan knows, he would've been an excellent Tarkin.
IIRC he was also given some facial makeup/prosthetic to help resemble Tarkin more.
 
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I love this fan edit from way back of a third Cushing Who movie from the 60s.
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Just want to say I love this image.
My brother sent me this image, obviously it's just in fun. But with the long gaps and, who knows, maybe another hiatus or two before 2033, there could be 2-3 more new Doctors and those we know will be that much older.

Aside from "hoping DW is still around by 2033", what do you want?

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This image is great!
For any reunion I just want to see Eleven and Twelve talking shit at one another, Thirteen trying to play mediator, Nine sitting in a corner exasperated and Ten and Fourteen actually getting on fine with one another.
 
It'll be the Daleks. We can hear them chanting right now, "Re-Dec-or-ate! Re-Dec-or-ate!Re-Dec-or-ate!Re-Dec-or-ate! Pew pew pew paint paint paint smell!"
This brings back a memory of a picture someone did for a Doctor Who fanzine during the Tom Baker era.

Imagine a Dalek wearing an apron, with a feather duster in place of the plunger attachment, busily doing housework...
 
Another idea for an anniversary special …

You may remember An Adventure in Space and Time, a 2013 BBC docudrama about the first year of the Doctor Who programme, and of William Hartnell’s coping with his pioneering role. It also showcased David Bradley, who would go on to portray the First Doctor in the series proper.

Why not a follow-on: Another Adventure in Space and Time, chronicling the Second Doctor’s career? Patrick Troughton began as a Shakespearian actor (appeared in Laurence Olivier’s Hamlet in 1948), did lots of character roles, Hammer horrors, helped kick off the successful The Omen series, and continued to make personal appearances based upon The Doctor (literally) right up until the end of his life.

And, of course, he took over the Doctor role under precarious circumstances: it was not only a re-casting, but, egad, a regeneration! Could he pull this off?

I understand that Matt Smith admired Troughton’s work and was influenced by it. Perhaps he might be persuaded to portray Patrick, giving him a unique distinction in the annals of Who.

(I’d suggest they wait and see how this one was accepted before contemplating Part III, Yet Another Bloomin’ Adventure in Time and Space.)
 
I think you'll find that there are many fans of An Adventure in Space and Time, myself included.

That said, I do love the idea of a sequel focused on Patrick Troughton. Reece Shearsmith did a pretty good version of him in that film.
 
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