Thomas Riker and his promotion

[Capt_Pickirk]

I was watching 'Second Chances' yesterday and something occurred to me. Shouldn't Thomas Riker automatically be given a promotion to Lt. Cmdr.

Both he and Will Riker showed 'exceptional valor' during the mission on Nervala IV, which promoted Will Riker, but not Tom.

 

[Satyrquaze]

I think the issue of there now being two Rikers took precidence.

 

[BillJ]

They should've promoted Thomas to captain of their newest flagship!

 

[Satyrquaze]

Cause nothing makes you fit for command and help out your people skills like 8 years in solitude.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

I think the issue of there now being two Rikers took precidence.

But still, they both did the same 'exceptional' thing, so denying Tom that promotion would also technically deny Will it. If you get what I mean

 

[Satyrquaze]

maybe they promoted him once he got on the USS Ghandi?

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

maybe they promoted him once he got on the USS Ghandi?

ummm. Good point.

But in 'Defiant' didn't they mention that he was a Lieutenant still??

 

[Satyrquaze]

I think there he may have been demoted for his "Maquis sympathies" before leaving starfleet.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

man that sucks, I liked Tom riker

 

[Scout101]

He'd have had to DO something to get busted down a rank. Something bad enough to get punished, but not bad enough to get jailed or kicked out.

You can maybe get held from advancing for sympathies, but you don't get demoted for them...

 

[Satyrquaze]

Well, in lieu of anything canon, I think we can only speculate.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

Well, in lieu of anything canon, I think we can only speculate.

I'd like to think Tom Riker busted out of that camp, two chain gun disruptors in each hand, blasting everything in sight, stealing a shuttle and becoming king of the alpha quadrant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BillJ]

I think the rank question is simple: Starfleet was fresh out of Lt. Commander's pips when the Enterprise found him.

The bigger mystery is how is he as fat as Will Riker is?

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

I think the rank question is simple: Starfleet was fresh out of Lt. Commander's pips when the Enterprise found him.

The bigger mystery is how is he as fat as Will Riker is?

We was probably thinner on the planet, but after all those year pinning for Deanna and being yelled at by Will Riker, he probably started comfort eating.

 

[drazzz52923849]

I found the whole episode to be frivolous. The only thing i liked about it is that it provided some backstory on Riker and Troi's relationship before the enterprise and it kind of set up why Riker would be angry at Worf for dating Troi.

 

[Commodore_Rook]

I think the rank question is simple: Starfleet was fresh out of Lt. Commander's pips when the Enterprise found him.

The bigger mystery is how is he as fat as Will Riker is?

AND had a clean cut haircut and same exact beard!!!!!

 

[milo bloom]

I found the whole episode to be frivolous. The only thing i liked about it is that it provided some backstory on Riker and Troi's relationship before the enterprise and it kind of set up why Riker would be angry at Worf for dating Troi.

The most frivolous part of the whole thing is the TPTB completely blew a chance to promote William Riker to the captaincy he deserved, promote Data to first officer, Worf or Geordi to second officer and make Thomas start working his way back up the ladder at a bridge position. It would have solved the ridiculous situation of Will Riker turning down promotions but allowed Jonathon Frakes to stay on the show and maybe even stretch his acting abilities by playing his slightly psychotic twin.

 

[BillJ]

I found the whole episode to be frivolous. The only thing i liked about it is that it provided some backstory on Riker and Troi's relationship before the enterprise and it kind of set up why Riker would be angry at Worf for dating Troi.

The most frivolous part of the whole thing is the TPTB completely blew a chance to promote William Riker to the captaincy he deserved, promote Data to first officer, Worf or Geordi to second officer and make Thomas start working his way back up the ladder at a bridge position. It would have solved the ridiculous situation of Will Riker turning down promotions but allowed Jonathon Frakes to stay on the show and maybe even stretch his acting abilities by playing his slightly psychotic twin.

It would've been an interesting spin, but ultimately too risque for Berman and company.

 

[FormerLurker]

Until you realize they did the episode to lay the groundwork for just such a storyline, but Frakes didn't want to do it.

 

[BillJ]

Then they should've "promoted" Riker anyway and fired Frakes.