This show sucks shit

[Mr_Homn]

Hey now, TNG wasn't cancelled.

It probably wouldn't have been even if they would have made an eigth season which the actors were contracted for. Too bad the producers decided to end it and focus on the movies.

Agree. TNG was basically the only star trek show that did very well in ratings from beginning to end. This fact is often very annoying to fans of other trek shows, amusingly. (Hey, don't get mad at me. I love TOS, TNG, and DS9!)

Ah, Enterprise. Catnip for trek trolls. If such things be of course.

There are. And they won. They killed Enterprise. Little did they knew they were also killing Star Trek TV shows.

Ridiculous logic. The audience isn't responsible for a show being a failure. The makers of the show are.

 

[REDrake]

Ridiculous logic. The audience isn't responsible for a show being a failure. The makers of the show are.

Depends what you mean by audience. I find that usually the minority make a much bigger noise.

 

[chrinFinity]

It is strange to see someone who is critical of Enterprise, but thinks its high point was season one.

To me, the first two seasons were mediochre at best, alternating between stupid plot ideas and the squandering of half-decent plot ideas. The third season was a really embarassing artifact of the immediate post-9/11 American psychology, a terrible waste of a year's worth of production... And then the fourth season under Coto and the 2 Reeves-Stevens was absolutely some of the highest quality Star Trek ever produced.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The third season was a really embarassing artifact of the immediate post-9/11 American psychology, a terrible waste of a year's worth of production...

But they added a few zeroes.

 

[R. Star]

It is strange to see someone who is critical of Enterprise, but thinks its high point was season one.

To me, the first two seasons were mediochre at best, alternating between stupid plot ideas and the squandering of half-decent plot ideas. The third season was a really embarassing artifact of the immediate post-9/11 American psychology, a terrible waste of a year's worth of production... And then the fourth season under Coto and the 2 Reeves-Stevens was absolutely some of the highest quality Star Trek ever produced.

Well when the OP's idea of criticism is "sucks shit" you really don't expect in depth detail and analysis. Or even a consistent one.

I'll agree that the first two seasons drove away a lot of fans when it was originally airing. The 3rd season was alright, though was way too drawn out. With the exception of the alien Nazi's in Storm Front and the silliness(for lack of a harsher word) that was These are the Voyagers, season 4 did produce some very interesting and in depth episodes. If the ever hypothetical season 5 would've happened on a level of quality like this, perhaps it is disappointing the show was canceled. Ultimately though, the damage really was done in the first two seasons.

 

[Sexy Human]

I assure you all, I am not flaming or trolling... I actually love star trek. I love the idea, I loved TNG, and for the most part I really enjoyed the movies.

I am a realist, and I speak it like it is. This show is just really, painfully awful.

I am not going to lie. I kind of liked a few episodes. But for the most part it is really badly done, the characters are pretty weak, and its pretty boring and cheesy.

 

[Sexy Human]

The Alien Nazis was quite possibly the stupidest shit ever created by a human being.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The Alien Nazis was quite possibly the stupidest shit ever created by a human being.

You are wrong.

 

[Sexy Human]

How is this even remotely plausible, the idea of nazi aliens?

What were they racist roward jews? I dont get it? Why would someone even do this?

And no in case anyone is wondering its not like Im Jewish and being sensitive or something.

I would love to create a star trek franchise. I could do better than this.

 

[Methos]

M

 

[F. King Daniel]

Ridiculous logic. The audience isn't responsible for a show being a failure. The makers of the show are.

Depends what you mean by audience. I find that usually the minority make a much bigger noise.

Yes, but if those in charge ever actually cared what the internet loudmouths thought, Smallville would have been cancelled in season one, instead of being allowed to "rape Superman's legacy" for ten whole years. JJ Abrams' Star Trek would never have reached the filming stage.

Enterprise was cancelled due to low ratings, high costs and a network boss more interested in ultra-cheap reality shows.

I assure you all, I am not flaming or trolling... I actually love star trek. I love the idea, I loved TNG, and for the most part I really enjoyed the movies.

I am a realist, and I speak it like it is. This show is just really, painfully awful.

I am not going to lie. I kind of liked a few episodes. But for the most part it is really badly done, the characters are pretty weak, and its pretty boring and cheesy.

To me it sounds like you're describing The Next Generation. I recently enjoyed rewatches of Voyager, Enterprise and The Original Series. Although all had bad episodes, I felt the good very much outweighed the bad. But I stopped halfway through TNG. It's wasn't nearly as good I remembered. Other than Picard, Data and Pulaski, the other characters were virtually nonexistant, personality-wise (perhaps I've been spoiled by the novels). And I found the direction awful - the way they just stand there, arms at their sides, taking turns reciting lines...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I dont get it? Why would someone even do this?

Well in TOS there was whipping.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I dont get it? Why would someone even do this?

Well in TOS there was whipping.

And with that, hundreds of kinky K/S stories were spawned

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

 

[Nacluv]

Agree. TNG was basically the only star trek show that did very well in ratings from beginning to end. This fact is often very annoying to fans of other trek shows, amusingly. (Hey, don't get mad at me. I love TOS, TNG, and DS9!)

Yes, this is what I could find.
http://www.trektoday.com/articles/ratings_history.shtml

• Fall 1987 - Spring 1988: 8.55 Million
• Fall 1988 - Spring 1989: 9.14 Million
• Fall 1989 - Spring 1990: 9.77 Million
• Fall 1990 - Spring 1991: 10.58 Million
• Fall 1991 - Spring 1992: 11.50 Million
• Fall 1992 - Spring 1993: 10.83 Million
• Fall 1993 - Spring 1994: 9.78 Million
• Fall 1994 - Spring 1995: 7.05 Million
• Fall 1995 - Spring 1996: 6.42 Million
• Fall 1996 - Spring 1997: 5.03 Million
• Fall 1997 - Spring 1998: 4.53 Million
• Fall 1998 - Spring 1999: 4.00 Million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek#After_Roddenberry

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Nacluv, posting a link to an article is fine, but cutting and pasting in huge amounts of text from that article is not. Paraphrasing is your friend.

Not bothering to add a word of commentary after posting a link is what we call spamming. Please add some content to your posts, okay? --HR

 

[Spanky]

>clicks on Sexy Human's 'About Me'
>"Interests: Star Trek Enterprise"

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

 

[NrobbieC]

Other than Picard, Data and Pulaski

Ugh, Pulaski, I wanted her die a slow and violent death, she was awful.

 

[Use of Time]

>clicks on Sexy Human's 'About Me'
>"Interests: Star Trek Enterprise"

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

Well done sir.

 

[R. Star]

You mean the contradiction really surprises you?

 

[BillJ]

Like every other Star Trek series, it's very hit or miss. When it's good, it's really good. When it's bad, it's really bad.