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What about the rumored Star Fleet Academy series?
AFAIK, no one ever seriously considered making one. A Starfleet Academy movie was proposed but no series.

Yeah, a StarTrek.com article from 1999 talks about the proposed Star Fleet Academy movie:


The year was 1989, and then on the table was Bennett's finished script for Star Trek: The Academy Years. "I had a joyful script about cadets Kirk and Spock in a simpler time," Bennett said...

In his script, Kirk and Spock were fresh-faced cadets at Starfleet Academy, joined by McCoy, older than the typical cadet and already a physician, having joined Starfleet to put behind him some of his life's tragedies including the death of his father as mentioned in ST V. Among the cadets' favorite instructors in the script was one Montgomery Scott, a teacher of mechanical sciences...

At the time of the story, warp speed had not been reached by Federation scientists - but would be by the end of the picture.

"I had a romance between Kirk and a cadet named Cassie, who dies bravely in his arms," he says, "which explains how he never came to love that way again."


Read the whole article here:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/110205.html
 
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How about a series with The Star Fleet Corps of Engineers? They solve problems or prevent them instead of the post mortem ala CSI or NCIS . They could have a captain more like Dr House instead of Captain Gold. B'Lanna Torres-Paris would be a great candidate for this type of series. Tom Paris could be a commander of a less than Intrepid class starship for trouble shooting purposes as well
 
How about a series with The Star Fleet Corps of Engineers? They solve problems or prevent them instead of the post mortem ala CSI or NCIS . They could have a captain more like Dr House instead of Captain Gold. B'Lanna Torres-Paris would be a great candidate for this type of series. Tom Paris could be a commander of a less than Intrepid class starship for trouble shooting purposes as well

Star Trek: Deep Space Engineers (DSE)

or

Star Trek: Journeymen

or

Star Trek: The Corp
 
Section 31: A series dealing with the dark underbelly of the Federation and the lengths to which it will go. Bashir centric.

Odo and Quark: Rom makes Quark the Ambassador to the Dominion. They're the original odd couple! :lol:
 
Sulu as a central character? Egads, that sounds dreadful! I can't imagine a Trek show I'd LESS like to see, unless it was maybe "Star Trek: EMH, because it really IS All About Me!" or something. :lol:

Personally, I think the most interesting (and perhaps darkest) Trek spin-off would be about Garak....or even about all of Trek's more covert groups - Section 31, The Obsidian Order, the Tal Sh'air, etc.

With the right writers, these groups could be made into an interesting spy/covert ops show.

Of course, that would not be popular with the fans who think that all of Trek needs to be Happy/Shiny.

But I think it would be exciting.
 
Sulu as a central character? Egads, that sounds dreadful! I can't imagine a Trek show I'd LESS like to see, unless it was maybe "Star Trek: EMH, because it really IS All About Me!" or something. :lol:

I don't know why everyone thinks Sulu couldn't have carried a show. We really know very little about him, so the writers would have had a great deal of wiggle room to make him awesome.
 
Sulu as a central character? Egads, that sounds dreadful! I can't imagine a Trek show I'd LESS like to see, unless it was maybe "Star Trek: EMH, because it really IS All About Me!" or something. :lol:

I don't know why everyone thinks Sulu couldn't have carried a show. We really know very little about him, so the writers would have had a great deal of wiggle room to make him awesome.

I don't know. I just never thought Sulu was very interesting. Plus, Takai has, over the years, really overestimated his own importance to the series, and that kinda annoys me. Finally, I don't really think of him as a very good actor. I found him to be quite stiff, in fact.

However, I couldn't really see an entire show based around Chekhov either though. To me, that would be equally uninteresting. In fact, that character was so uninteresting that I don't even really think of Koenig as a Trek actor any longer. To me, he's a Babylon 5 actor, because his role was a billion times more interesting on that show. For Koenig, Star Trek was just the warm-up.
 
Elim Garak and Trip Tucker are the ones who really seem like they could carry a series.

Early in ENT's run, I wanted Archer to die on a mission and Trip have to take over command. T'Pol wouldn't be a permanent option for command since she's not a hew-mon. :p

Personally, I think the most interesting (and perhaps darkest) Trek spin-off would be about Garak....or even about all of Trek's more covert groups - Section 31, The Obsidian Order, the Tal Sh'air, etc.

Yeah a Garak-centric show would push the boundaries of what's acceptable for Star Trek, but that's one of the reasons I'd like it. It would also be less human-centric and not focused on Starfleet, at least not its public face...
 
Sulu as a central character? Egads, that sounds dreadful! I can't imagine a Trek show I'd LESS like to see, unless it was maybe "Star Trek: EMH, because it really IS All About Me!" or something. :lol:

I don't know why everyone thinks Sulu couldn't have carried a show. We really know very little about him, so the writers would have had a great deal of wiggle room to make him awesome.

I don't know. I just never thought Sulu was very interesting. Plus, Takai has, over the years, really overestimated his own importance to the series, and that kinda annoys me. Finally, I don't really think of him as a very good actor. I found him to be quite stiff, in fact.

I totally agree - he's not that interesting. But he's not interesting because we know very little about him. The writers would have very few restraints in making him interesting if they wanted to.

As for overestimating his importance, my guess is that he's fully aware of how important his character was, but he's also aware of the benefits he can receive by constantly promoting himself publicly.
 
How about a Bajoran series about the occupation. It could follow Kira in the Shakar cell. Also it would give us more Dukat and Garak. What more could a niner ask for?:drool::bolian:
 
In 1999, according to reports forwarded to AICN by participants (later somewhat confirmed by Braga and pretty much denied by Berman) Paramount tested proposals for three possible Trek series with some focus groups.

Last night, over here in Glendale, CA, there was a focus group session where they floated 3 possible ideas for a new Star Trek series; ran them up the flagpole, so to speak, to see which ones we saluted. The focus group consisted of about 10 people, representing all demographics (male, female, young, old, all races.)

The premises were presented to us in very crude animatics (the focus groupers stressed that they final series would be live-action, and that these animatics were just for demonstration purposes.) Proctored discussion followed each presentation.

The first was the much rumored, "Star Fleet Academy." (So, despite the constant denials that this premise was even being considered, apparently it IS very much being mulled over.) Despite an initial warm reception, after some discussion, this was shot down by the group as "90210 in Space."

The second, and probably the strongest, involved an elite band of trouble-shooters that traveled throughout the galaxy, dealing with volitale situations and galactic hot-spots; sort of the Federation's Navy SEALS. They would go undercover, when necessary, and deal with terrorists, pirates, etc. This really seemed to have the best potential for being a kick-ass sci-fi adventure series.

The third concept was the least developed, and was set in the early, pre-Enterprise days of the Federation; back when Klingons were bad, Romulans were yet to be discovered, and young James T. was just a gleam in his father's eye. Basically, "Young Orignial Series Trek." But none of the original series' characters would be featured.

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"I just got back from visiting a relative in Glendale, and after taking a trip to the local mall they had there, wound up in a focus group where, yes, they were screening three Star Trek series concepts.

Since I see someone has already reported in about it, I'll try not to repeat much here. Basically as was already said,when they braught us in, they had a standard VCR setup where they would show us all some CGI animations of ships little virtual people running around the decks, things like that. With a woman talking over the animations with an explanation of each show. Then they left us alone and we debated which one's we'd watch if they were on the air. I tell you I was pretty disappointed for the most part, that they have had like a year to think up a new series and this is all they came up with. I was pretty sad that there wasn't a movie-era concept.

The first one was, from what I could gather from the ships and story outline, pretty much a Deep Space Nine spinoff. Nothing new. Which takes place at the same time period and everything.(Oh God I see many a pointless crossover) I wasn't suprised when discussion time came around and about five of the eleven people there loved this one. The animations were balls-to-the-walls KICKASS, no doubt. Again, very Deep Space Nine-ish. They had God-knows-how-many battle sequences with ships gratiutously blowing up even when they didn't appear to be hit, looking alot like the ones we saw in the opening battle of Star Trek: First Contact, with finally a greek letter flying towards the screen that I'm pretty sure was the symbol for Omega. Is that the name of the series? Got me. Anyway, the ships were very militaristic, not typical "one saucer, two nacelles" design of ship that we are used to. About the size of the defiant, but different configurations, much sleeker like they were made out of metal. There was also a sequence of CG characters storming some new alien ship with what looked like "breaching pods" (which is stupid when they could've just beamed over.) All in all, this was the worst of the options presented in my opinion. Absolutely no story, but plenty of cloak and dagger, spy and shoot. I was probably the only one that really hated it. Every one else had dumb comments, envoking Star Wars to say something like "this is what space shows are supposed to be." Yeah right. Sometimes what looks great in a five minute clip won't cut it in a seven year run.

Conclusion: All style and no substance. It would kickass for a couple of seasons and then fail to develop. You don't care if the characters get captured or die because they're strangers to you.

Next, shock of shocks, Starfleet Academy appeared on the monitor. The CG was less inspiring than the first, consisting of some kind of 24th century "aircraft carrier", a huge tub ship with a long hull about the shape of Voyager's. The openning scene showed these long bays along the side openning up and these almost boomerang shaped fighters flying out one by one. The uniforms on the CG characters looked like what we saw in the episode "valiant" I kinda was receptive to it, then they started explaining what the show would be like. A total barrage of cliches. The old scolding captain trying to keep in line the wild top gun cadets. It just got worse from there. The lady who was standing with her clipboard by the screen said it would focus on their adolescent problems, they might have trouble at school, one of the guys might fall for one of the girl characters who likes someone else. I wanted to gag. However, I'm wondering if maybe the guy who first reported was in an earlier focus group, because as far as I can recall no one called it a "90210 in space." That's actually a perfect way to put it, but no one said it then. It's an intriguing premise, I mean I remember reading Heinlein's original Starship Troopers...but the wrong direction to take it.

Conclusion: Space: Above and Beyond resurrected, and this time worse!

Finally, the last one, the 22nd century one I'd have to say was the one that sat with me the best. Unlike the other two it had VERY little CGI, and no video, just screen shots. The ships kinda looked like a cross between The Old Series and 2001: A Space Odyssey, having kindof a rugged gracefulness to the ships(They kept the "orange necelle lights from TOS unfortunately :-) However, just a correction: The series as it was explained to us would take place VERY far pre-TOS and would even be pre-federation. It would focus on a ship, the USS Enterprise(Interesting to note, the room erupted when they mentioned that note :-) from an earth space probe administration or something, and would focus on the exploits that led up to the establishment of the Federation, and the havoc that occured after the disasterous first contact with the Klingons. A "the people who were behind it all that you never knew of" story pretty much. It looked to have taken a little of the feel from the original series, but leaving all the 60's decor out, and leaving in an Apollo 13 kinda motif. I'd have to say without a doubt in the end this was my fav, as from my years watching The Next generation, this seemed the only one to capture that spirit.

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How about a Bajoran series about the occupation. It could follow Kira in the Shakar cell. Also it would give us more Dukat and Garak. What more could a niner ask for?:drool::bolian:


this would be a show where I would root for thr Cardassians ;-)


as for the star fleet academy ideas, i just dont understand how they could make them interesting.
Like every other episode they would be called into duty in space, or their training ship would go off course?

It also doesnt help that every time we have seen cadets in the various shows they have all been bland and annoying
 
No way! When I think academy I think Finnegan, Sito and Locarno. All of those characters are awesome!

Ah Sito. Loved her. Really liked "Lower Decks". Wished DS9 had a similar ep (other than the Valiant one).

This was actually one of my 'future trek' ideas that no one thought would work, but I still think it would. The show would actually feature a lower decks cast. I think it would be way more accessable to 'normal' people since most people in the armed forces never become officers...

Oh well..I guess we need our big chested (breasted) captains..

Rob
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