Things you liked about voyager

[KaraBear]

There's always a lot of criticism and negative comments about Voyager. how about a positive thread? Were there any aspects that you liked about it? An episode, a character, a plot point....

for me one of the biggest things I liked about Voyager was the characters. They weren't cookie cutter starfleet officers like on TNG and DS9. They were people who had some kind of issue in their past, they were flawed, they were more like real people.

And the design of the ship itself. I always thought that Voyager herself was sleek and beautiful

 

[Jeri]

There's always a lot of criticism HERE at the TrekBBS. In the real world, people like Voyager; pay a visit to startrek.com or get Trek feed on Facebook. The TrekBBS was founded by Niners and is still heavy on the Niners, a lot of whom eschew Voyager. Indeed a lot of them eschew all other trek than DS-9. This was borne out some years ago in an independent poll by a marketing student here. About sixty percent of the respondents at that time had DS-9 as their favorite Trek, and about 40% of that group liked no other Trek.

 

[MacLeod]

I would say Robert Picardo as the EMH.

 

[MacLeod]

There's always a lot of criticism HERE at the TrekBBS. In the real world, people like Voyager; pay a visit to startrek.com or get Trek feed on Facebook. The TrekBBS was founded by Niners and is still heavy on the Niners, a lot of whom eschew Voyager. Indeed a lot of them eschew all other trek than DS-9. This was borne out some years ago in an independent poll by a marketing student here. About sixty percent of the respondents at that time had DS-9 as their favorite Trek, and about 40% of that group liked no other Trek.

Yes other sites might have people that favour VOY but then your argument to paraphrase it would be that in the Real World people like DSN, pay a visit to trekbbs.com etc..

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Phage, Seska, Species 8742. On paper, Chakotay and Tuvok. R B-D.

 

[KaraBear]

There's always a lot of criticism HERE at the TrekBBS. In the real world, people like Voyager; pay a visit to startrek.com or get Trek feed on Facebook. The TrekBBS was founded by Niners and is still heavy on the Niners, a lot of whom eschew Voyager. Indeed a lot of them eschew all other trek than DS-9. This was borne out some years ago in an independent poll by a marketing student here. About sixty percent of the respondents at that time had DS-9 as their favorite Trek, and about 40% of that group liked no other Trek.

I actually am a member of startrek.com and I have the startrek feed on facebook. I know what you mean. I've found that the message board opinions are often different than "real life" opinions...at least the ones I've encountered at conventions

 

[MacLeod]

It also depends on which conventions you attend. I've been to general, ST, Stargate ones etc.. and When ST does come up DSN does generally win out over VOY. But as with anything else it comes down to personal taste.

 

[BruntFCA]

I always thought that VOY had the best opening of any Trek, both in music and visuals.

 

[Infern0]

I liked that they were away from the rest of starfleet and the federation, it was a very interesting theme, also had some great characters like the EMH.

 

[MacLeod]

Well I have to agree it was nice visually and the title music wasn't to bad. Not sure if it's my favourtie though. In terms of visuals I might give that to ENT.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Captain Kathryn Janeway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocfZJnnyIt0

Warts and all.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocfZJnnyIt0[/yt]

Other Captains have threatened to blow up their ship.

She's the only one with the balls to do it... WHILE she was still on board.

"Welcome to the bridge."

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Other Captains have threatened to blow up their ship.

She's the only one with the balls to do it.

I must misremember Search for Spock and First Contact.

 

[Brit]

Other Captains have threatened to blow up their ship.

She's the only one with the balls to do it.

I must misremember Search for Spock and First Contact.

Well lets see, Janeway did blow up her ship while she was still on it. Kirk blew up his ship but he wasn't on it, and Picard might have been willing but he didn't have to. So yes she was the only one that actually did, and she did it twice. "Deadlock" and "Year of Hell"

 

[KaraBear]

It also depends on which conventions you attend. I've been to general, ST, Stargate ones etc.. and When ST does come up DSN does generally win out over VOY. But as with anything else it comes down to personal taste.

yeah, in my experience TNG is always the favorite, and TOS. DS9 and Voyager are usually about the same

 

[KaraBear]

Other Captains have threatened to blow up their ship.

She's the only one with the balls to do it.

I must misremember Search for Spock and First Contact.

Well lets see, Janeway did blow up her ship while she was still on it. Kirk blew up his ship but he wasn't on it, and Picard might have been willing but he didn't have to. So yes she was the only one that actually did, and she did it twice. "Deadlock" and "Year of Hell"

Picard did ram his ship into another one, but never actually blew it up

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Picard might have been willing but he didn't have to. So yes she was the only one that actually did, and she did it twice. "Deadlock" and "Year of Hell"

Wait ... Picard stopped the countdown? Or did he abandon the ship? What did he do to lose his "balls" (which Janeway apparently had)?

ETA: In both the episodes you cite, Janeway realizes that conditions would allow her to reset, more or less, the events that have unfolded. Not exactly courageous.

 

[dub]

I always thought that VOY had the best opening of any Trek, both in music and visuals.

This! Absolutely breathtaking. I also liked the idea of the show itself. I will keep it positive and leave it there. Plus, I still can't make a totally fair judgment since I'm still crawling through my first ever re-watch, and my first ever watch without skipping episodes. Also, full disclosure: I'm a Niner, but I've only been a Niner for less than a year. Perhaps I'm the worst kind!

 

[Melakon]

Not exactly courageous.

But she doesn't know for certain whether ramming the Krenim timeship will work, it's just a theory. And even if it does work, that particular Janeway's going to be killed anyway and miss out on the benefits of a reset.

 

[Greg Cox]

I always thought that VOY had the best opening of any Trek, both in music and visuals.

Agreed.

In addition, you had the EMH and Seven of Nine. Both great characters who spiced up any episode they were in.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Not exactly courageous.

But she doesn't know for certain whether ramming the Krenim timeship will work, it's just a theory. And even if it does work, that particular Janeway's going to be killed anyway and miss out on the benefits of a reset.

True. However, it affects how risky her decisions really are, particularly given the fact that in the ST universe, resets almost always work.