Things you HATED about this show. As much as there are positives about STD there is much CRINGE!
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Cut out the personal attacks please.
What's wrong with Midnight's Edge specifically? You don't like them because they do a youtube show?
Leonard Nimoy. Y'know... Spock. The guy who came up with the entire idea in the first place? Leonard Nimoy's entire logical process for the idea was that Spock is an alien, and thus with his biology can do mind melds, neck pinches, etc. Vulcan physiology grants them special powers to make them interesting characters. If anyone can do the neck pinch, it's not a special thing anymore. It's just another piece of fluff butter. Yeah, it's setup in later shows that non-Vulcans can do it. It just always annoyed me, as if the point went right over the heads of those running the show. He's an alien! He can do things we can't. That's the point!
Anyway... Didn't hate anything, honestly. I think the technological differences are a, with all due respect, "get over it" kind of issue. Either you can do so, or you can't. It's not about canon. It's just the change of times.
My only real gripe with the show is that, whether or not you call it a reboot, and irregardless of how penetrating some Trek ideas are into pop culture... There's a number of things in Discovery that are just shown to the audience without really establishing what the Hell they are. We haven't had a new Trek show on in a decade, and they didn't really bother to reintroduce a lot of the Trek ideas. They just kind flop out onto the stage.
Other than that I honestly didn't have any major issues. None. The two episodes breezed right on by and I was a little disheartened it was over so quickly.
I don't like them because they are batshit crazy............
What did they do? I've seen most of their vids and they seem to have their heads screwed on well.
They were correct about the canon fuckery. I think some script/reshoot doctors may have come in later to clean the mess up. That explains why the show isn't a total failure.
They were correct about the canon fuckery. I think some script/reshoot doctors may have come in later to clean the mess up. That explains why the show isn't a total failure.
That was spelled out plain as day.
You should pay more attention to TOS.
This thread reminds me. I need to check out the guys over at Trekyards to see what they thought of the first two episodes. Those guys crank out a lot of quality videos and well-informed opinions and I can't wait to see their review video of the launch.
Because then we'd have had Measure of a Man 2.0, and they were in the middle of a space battle.
Not sure if serious.
Their Trek sources are nutjob conspiracy theorists who claim, among many other things, that everyone on this board is paid by CBS to undermine what they consider to be "true" Star Trek (which, last I checked was Axanar)
Damn Eddie.........I HOPE that was sarcasm.I'll leave that to you to decide.
True, it could have been T'Pol--that might have made more sense.
One thing I have found with these episodes that some people have some very different views on the episodes. Looking at the averages here (I calculate the averages and shall post them in a few days - as it might be interesting to see how the episodes score over time) and on IMDB, seems most people liked it. I seen some crazy opinions about the show across various places on the internet.
While I agree T'Pol would have been an ok adoptive parent, I think casual viewers know Sarek and Spock way more than T'Pol or any Enterprise crewmember. Hell it could have been ANY random Vulcan........so I assume there is a reason down the line somewhere.
I was missing real Star Trek feel. Everything was dark (huge bridge, dark courtroom, ...).
Maybe more smooth canon continuity (ala SW Rogue One).
Klingon mask - hard to act with them.
Space was overfull. Couldn't see the ships detail. And the JJ "lasers". Slow powerfull phasers could be added.
No newbie. Had to change account.
Maybe more smooth canon continuity (ala SW Rogue One).
Klingon mask - hard to act with them.
Space was overfull. Couldn't see the ships detail. And the JJ "lasers". Slow powerfull phasers could be added.
No newbie. Had to change account.
Little things:
How are "visual sensors" unable to see what a telescope can? That's like the first thing they should be able to do...well...tachyons are faster than photons...that's the oldest thing they should be able to do, even if they should get more sophisticated scans faster. That said, the telescope scene was cute.
If they have their blinds on at 100%, I don't care how bright the Klingon flare was, it's not getting through. Worse comes to worse, close the shutters -- it's not like it shown through the metal hull of the ship. That said, it looked striking.
Bigger things:
The makeup looks bad. It's all too rubbery and makes their eyes look tiny and silly. And the Klingons and Saru "sound" like they have too much makeup on/in. That said, they really went for it.
I'm not a fan of the acting overall. If they're going for more naturalistic esthetics, they should drop the stilted sci-fi acting and go more naturalistic there too. The Starfleeters deliver too much pluck and the Klingons too much archness, and I have a hard time connecting to it all on a real emotional level. That said, I'll watch it all eventually.
How are "visual sensors" unable to see what a telescope can? That's like the first thing they should be able to do...well...tachyons are faster than photons...that's the oldest thing they should be able to do, even if they should get more sophisticated scans faster. That said, the telescope scene was cute.
If they have their blinds on at 100%, I don't care how bright the Klingon flare was, it's not getting through. Worse comes to worse, close the shutters -- it's not like it shown through the metal hull of the ship. That said, it looked striking.
Bigger things:
The makeup looks bad. It's all too rubbery and makes their eyes look tiny and silly. And the Klingons and Saru "sound" like they have too much makeup on/in. That said, they really went for it.
I'm not a fan of the acting overall. If they're going for more naturalistic esthetics, they should drop the stilted sci-fi acting and go more naturalistic there too. The Starfleeters deliver too much pluck and the Klingons too much archness, and I have a hard time connecting to it all on a real emotional level. That said, I'll watch it all eventually.
Crowded, dull...mostly trivial and nonsense dialogue with one or two scenes - in an hour and a half - that were dramatically worthwhile, and those were steeped in the stilted declamatory style of 1960s television. Production design is uninspired. The Klingon fuckery is just awful - why would anyone who isn't a trekkie pause for more than fifteen seconds in their channel surfing Sunday evening to try to figure that out?
The redhead on the bridge is nice-looking. I got to look at her a lot. The actor's family must be really pleased, since about half of all close-ups were her silent reactions to events. What was the character's name, anyway? Did she have a line, somewhere? Something like "open hailing frequencies?" Does she have a particular job on the Shenzhou?
Burnham's got Sarek in her head? That's novel. Well, it worked for Farscape and Balltestar Galactica, right?
Lots more that's not good.
The redhead on the bridge is nice-looking. I got to look at her a lot. The actor's family must be really pleased, since about half of all close-ups were her silent reactions to events. What was the character's name, anyway? Did she have a line, somewhere? Something like "open hailing frequencies?" Does she have a particular job on the Shenzhou?
Burnham's got Sarek in her head? That's novel. Well, it worked for Farscape and Balltestar Galactica, right?
Lots more that's not good.
I hated the Klingon redesign like I hate AIDS and traffic jams.
I did not even think of an analogy to Trump supporters, but it does seem plausible.
Hmmm...Xenophobic, check. Shouty, check. Leaders using their supporters' racism to gain power, check.
If the Klingon leaders turn out to be lying in every other sentence I might have to say the parallel is pretty strong.
I did not even think of an analogy to Trump supporters, but it does seem plausible.
Hmmm...Xenophobic, check. Shouty, check. Leaders using their supporters' racism to gain power, check.
If the Klingon leaders turn out to be lying in every other sentence I might have to say the parallel is pretty strong.