Things you didn't like

[Pindar]

I am photosensitive and get migraines from bright lights.

The first time I watched I ended up with a terrible headache, so I hated the strobes, flares and bright lights.

However when I went with my friends none of them seemed to notice any bright lights.

What really bugs me the most about the film is when Kirk is the Narada.

When being dangled over the ledge by the Romulan he grabs his gun shoots him and then drops the gun to grab the ledge and pull himself up.

He then picks the gun back up and goes off to rescue Pike.

However, when he jumps across to land of the ledge you can clearly see the gun already lying on the ground as he jumps over.

I noticed it the first time I saw and on the 2 subsequent viewings it really bugged me.

Also Kirk seemed to lose a lot of phasers over the edge of things.

 

[Claudia]

6. Kirk being ejected from the ship instead of being sent to the brig or something remotely logical. One of many contrivances to drag us from point A to point B without any real reason. Lazy.

Actually you'd be surprised how often in real life coincidences of that type occur and seem to be pre ordained.. and with Star Trek we are most definitely dealing with aspects of fate and destiny.. acceptable I thought considering truth is often stranger than fiction

But this isn't a coincidence. This is just a plotdevice that doesn't make *any* sense at all. Spock's decision to throw Kirk out the airlock was not logical, it was over the top - and definitely not worthy of Spock.

The other thing that bothers me is the fact that Spock Prime was on Delta Vega when Vulcan blew up and he *saw* the whole thing... wasn't Delta Vega near the Galactic Barrier (Where no man has gone before), or are we meant to believe that Vulcan's too? It's a minor nitpick but I really think it unlikely that the planets were so close together.

 

[SpocKirk]

6. Kirk being ejected from the ship instead of being sent to the brig or something remotely logical. One of many contrivances to drag us from point A to point B without any real reason. Lazy.

Actually you'd be surprised how often in real life coincidences of that type occur and seem to be pre ordained.. and with Star Trek we are most definitely dealing with aspects of fate and destiny.. acceptable I thought considering truth is often stranger than fiction

But this isn't a coincidence. This is just a plotdevice that doesn't make *any* sense at all. Spock's decision to throw Kirk out the airlock was not logical, it was over the top - and definitely not worthy of Spock.

Of course it's a coincidence.. and Spock is very young here and still struggling with emotions and needs to exert authority and goes overboard (pardon the pun) it's a message to the rest of the crew that you don't question the Captain

 

[Trekker4747]

I wonder if McCoy's ex was Dax?

That's a good point, she met him right, I would have liked to have seen that

Nah, she wouldn't talk so fondly of someone a past host divorced. There couldn't have been anything between them besides an innocent little flirtation and/or fling.

Maybe in the original Dax's timeline their marriage didn't end badly?

 

[Pingfah]

I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but I think we have seen in Trek before that if you beam a moving object onboard, say a person running, the object will have the same momentum and kinetic energy as it materialises as it had when you beamed it.

Given that it seemed to me that Kirk and Sulu should have hit the deck at terminal velocity when they were beamed out of freefall.

That's about it really, and i'm not even sure that it is an error, I may be the one in error. Perhaps the transporter has safeties built in that won't allow it, but then wouldn't it have just placed them down gently instead of them hitting the deck really hard, but not AS hard as they were going?

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Perhaps it simply tries, but cannot, remove all inertia, so it does the best it can when transporting objects.

 

[Magpiemike]

• What’s with the bowels of the Enterprise belching steam, showing what looks like a factory in the 25rd century?—lame, rust included.

• Why Did Spock sit in the ice cave when he knew all hell was breaking loose and that the outpost was only 14 clicks away? Oh and while were at it, where did Spock get the “wood” for his comfy fire on this desolate ice planet?

• The lizard creature probably should have dressed for the cold.

• So the Romulans plop their drilling rig smack dab in San Fran bay, thank god that Spock took the initiative to blow it up—now seeing that earth is under attack at the headquarters of the Federation, weren’t there any earth forces capable to blow up the drilling platform? The way it’s portrayed in the movie, any “enterprising” ensign with a shuttle could have rammed the drill to stop the impending catastrophe.

• And finally, apparently the chain of command doesn’t exist when a stowaway can rise to be the captain and chief engineer with no credentials can run a ship he just beamed on to…

 

[gh4chiefs]

While I was watching the movie, I basically enjoyed it. But when I got home and started thinking about some things, that's when it started falling apart for me. In no particular order:

1) Didn't care for the "shaky cam" or lens flares.
2) Destruction of Vulcan
3) Death of Amanda
4) Kirk's rapid ascension to Captain
5) Kirk just happening to meet Spock and then Scotty on the ice planet.
6) WTF is up with engineering? Water pipes that look like an amusement ride? Really?
7) Spock and Uhura (OK folks seriously, this is probably by far the biggest deviation from the old Star Trek and seems to be actually changing the character not just his back story)
8) Scotty was funny but maybe a bit TOO funny
9) Scotty's sidekick. What was the point?
10) Spock marrooning Kirk. Now that just HAD to be against regulations.

 

[Pindar]

I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but I think we have seen in Trek before that if you beam a moving object onboard, say a person running, the object will have the same momentum and kinetic energy as it materialises as it had when you beamed it.

Given that it seemed to me that Kirk and Sulu should have hit the deck at terminal velocity when they were beamed out of freefall.

That's about it really, and i'm not even sure that it is an error, I may be the one in error. Perhaps the transporter has safeties built in that won't allow it, but then wouldn't it have just placed them down gently instead of them hitting the deck really hard, but not AS hard as they were going?

Didn't Chekov say something about matching the gravitational effects, I thought he was trying to cancel out the fall whilst getting a lock.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

For me the movie came to a screeching halt when Kirk finds future Spock on Delta Vega. When any movie has to stop and engage in a narrative, like Spocks mindmeld with Kirk, you've got a problem. The whole back story about a supernova threatening the entire galaxy, red matter, Spock handling the situation instead of Starfleet, Nero blaming Spock, and the convoluted time travel scenario, really slowed things down. The movie didn't get back on tract until Kirk and Scotty beamed out.

Also, future Spock meeting alternate reality Spock at the end was weird (regardless of what happened to Vulcan). Now the universe has two Spocks who know about each other?

The movie would have been better served with less future Spock. It just didn't work well.

 

[Pindar]

I wasn't keen on old Spock's last line either, I would have liked old spock saying something then a cut to young Spock echoing it on the bridge.

 

[SpocKirk]

Bah nitpicking.. it was a blast.. not everything needs to add up.. it's a movie

 

[Pingfah]

Didn't Chekov say something about matching the gravitational effects, I thought he was trying to cancel out the fall whilst getting a lock.

Oh yes, you are right I do remember him saying something of the sort. For some reason I thought he was talking about some effect caused by the red matter.

I'd just watched a really REALLY crap film with James Cromwell about a piece of a red dwarf hitting the moon and causing it weigh more than the earth and make everyone float as it rotates the earth, and also threaten to crash into the earth, which is probably why I had that in my head.

 

[Pindar]

Bah nitpicking.. it was a blast.. not everything needs to add up.. it's a movie

What did you expect in a thread with this title?

 

[SpocKirk]

Bah nitpicking.. it was a blast.. not everything needs to add up.. it's a movie

What did you expect in a thread with this title?

More nit, less picking

 

[Pindar]

Another thing I didn't like was the distinct lack of Sombreros.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

Another thing I didn't like was the distinct lack of Sombreros.

 

[McMenemy00]

I didn't like Scotty's sidekick...felt too much like Jar Jar to me.

Looked like a freakin' Ewok that had been set on fire, doused and pressed into Starfleet service. The single most cretinous thing in this movie, no, but bloody awful none the less.

 

[McMenemy00]

I wasn't keen on old Spock's last line either, I would have liked old spock saying something then a cut to young Spock echoing it on the bridge.

I actually mouthed along with what i THOUGHT the final line was going to be

"And so it begins, again."

Better than what they did fill his mouth with.

 

[gastrof]

...He then picks the gun back up and goes off to rescue Pike.

However, when he jumps across to land of the ledge you can clearly see the gun already lying on the ground as he jumps over....

He was preparing for the Khan incident, where his phaser fell off his belt in the middle of a scene.

The guy's young. Let'm practice, will ya'?