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Things you didn't like

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I liked the movie and thought that it was good, but I was wondering what it was that people did not like about the movie.

I did not like engineering. The movie made it clear that the timeline does not diverge until the Kevin, so why does the new engineering look like a waste facility, since ENT did happen in this timeline. Trip's Eng looks so advanced compared to the new ENT. The bridge looks like the Apple store and Eng looks like a PC. I just did not get it. Can warp plasma really travel through basic sewage pipe? It just did not look futuristic at all. Star Trek has always prided itself on pushing the boundaries of real science into scifi, but the new Eng, there is not scifi, just waste reclamation plant. It also seemed weird that the view screen that Archer had was easier to see things on and much clearer picture. Maybe they lost HD technology before they built the Kelvin. It looks kind of ridiculous. I also still do not like the look of the outside of the new Enterprise. It lacks any of the fluidity and beautiful lines of the original and the refit. I also did not like the uniforms on the Kelvin. They should have been a cross between ENT and TOS, but they looked like more of a TNG alternate universe uniform.
 
I liked the movie and thought that it was good, but I was wondering what it was that people did not like about the movie.

I did not like engineering. The movie made it clear that the timeline does not diverge until the Kevin, so why does the new engineering look like a waste facility, since ENT did happen in this timeline. Trip's Eng looks so advanced compared to the new ENT. The bridge looks like the Apple store and Eng looks like a PC. I just did not get it. Can warp plasma really travel through basic sewage pipe? It just did not look futuristic at all. Star Trek has always prided itself on pushing the boundaries of real science into scifi, but the new Eng, there is not scifi, just waste reclamation plant. It also seemed weird that the view screen that Archer had was easier to see things on and much clearer picture. Maybe they lost HD technology before they built the Kelvin. It looks kind of ridiculous. I also still do not like the look of the outside of the new Enterprise. It lack any of the fluidity and beautiful lines of the original and the refit. I also did not like the uniforms on the Kelvin. They should have been a cross between ENT and TOS, but they looked like more of a TNG alternate universe uniform.
I didn't like the plot.
 
I liked the movie too, but their were a number of things i didn't like. The major things being,

Blowing up Vulcan.
For me, Star Trek without Vulcan and Vulcans is like Star Wars without the Force or Jedi at all

The look of the Enterprise.
I mean it's exterior, i just can't get used to it, it looks distorted to me, and rather ugly.

The undoing of past trek.
I mean the movie was fun and i liked it and all, but considering it was little more than a space action movie and never meant to be anything more than that, i don't see why any of the changes they made were necesary. For example, it's not like the general non trekker Movie audience cares if Vulcan got blown up or not (Only Trekkers themselves would care about that) and they didn't much dwell on it to emphysise the Drama aspect of it anyways, so why introduce that change without any real reason to? A fast paced action movie could just have easily been made keeping true to general existing Trek.


Minor things i didn't like but can in general ignore are,

The look of Engineering.
It just didn't feel like a Star Trek Main Engineering and in general didn't much seem to make sense with the usual Star Trek aesthetic, heck it didn't even feel like it fit with the movie's own aesthetic.

Nero's motivation made no sense to me.
I mean sure he was grief stricken and angry and all that, but you'd think that after 25 years of just sitting around waiting for Spock, they might have calmed down long enough to say to thekselves, "Hey guys, why don't we go and figure out a way to prevent our loved ones from dying and prevent this whole desaster instead of wasting our times blowing up hundreds of other worlds and murdering trillions of people for nothing..." But hey, the movie needed a bad guy doing bad things so what ever.

And honestly, Starfleet really came out looking incompetent and ill organised in this.

Like i said though, despite the above things it was a still a good movie and fun to watch. :Shrug:
 
The way engineering was done made it more believable for me. I have been on Naval ships before and they were very utilitarian, along with cruise ships. The areas seen by most people, on cruise ships are very nice, very comfortable, but when you get to the support areas, they are very functional.
 
Boy Kirk. Ug.

Pine-Kirk's final 'Shat' swagger onto the Bridge. Some of the nods to the Classic Trek make me smile, that one made me wince.

And other than the Kelvin, I didn't really dig any of the other ships' interiors. Although I guess the Enterprise bridge wasn't too bad (apple-y I agree) I kept on seeing a spaced-up back lot ... it wasn't an illusion that was convincing.
 
Scotty in the pipes bit was silly.

Nero was underdeveloped (even though the story was more about the crew than him)

There were a couple of CG close up shots of Earth that loooked AWFUL.


Apart from that.... not much else.
 
I'm thinking. I'll get back to you.
At the moment, I've got nothing.


J.
 
I didn't like the plot.

Actually... what plot? Generic bad guy blows up planet and is chased down - enter action-sequences... that plot?!? If they had at least given Nero some kind of personality... *sighs* And what about those years inbetween the attacks? Wouldn't it be awfully hard to hide such a ship for 25 years?!?

- too many action sequences where Kirk either falls/jumps down something or crawls back up from the abyss

- the destruction of Vulcan - while rationally I appreciate the possibilities this offers, my ST-heart was bleeding.

- engineering looked awfully strange - and since when is there more than one core that can be ejected?

- the Uhura/Spock transporter room scene - while I didn't feel comfortable with the turbolift scene, at least that one had no spectators.
 
The insta-promotion rubs me the wrong way - partially because it is so different from reality, and partially because it suggests talent is valued over experience (I'll buy that, but only up to a point.)
 
I didn't like the Spock/Uhura pairing (although I will keep an open mind).


I also didn't like Nokia mention. I can live with the possibility that Budweiser would still exist in a post-scarcity future as a type of beer, but the Nokia thing bugs me.


The biggest thing that I don't like though is simple: WE HAVE TO WAIT AT LEAST TWO YEARS FOR MORE TREK. ARGH!
 
Yes, the instant promotion-thing annoyed me quite a bit as well - not only the one on Enterprise with Kirk as acting first officer, but also the one at the end. I mean, he *was* just a cadet at the beginning of the crisis. (But I'd have expected a quib at Pike at the end about the fact that it didn't take Kirk 8 years to have his own ship, but a mere 3.)

And that line of Nero's "Hello Christopher, I'm Nero." WTF? That just felt so off...
 
The insta-promotion rubs me the wrong way - partially because it is so different from reality, and partially because it suggests talent is valued over experience (I'll buy that, but only up to a point.)

What he said. Kirk should not have been able to jump from cadet to captain in one step, and I'm as big a Kirk fan as they come.

Sigh.
 
While I appreciate seeing a shirtless Kirk, I feel that the movie was incomplete without a shirtless Mc Coy.

I sincerely hope they correct this oversight in the sequel.

Thank you,
Crusher Disciple
 
The insta-promotion rubs me the wrong way - partially because it is so different from reality, and partially because it suggests talent is valued over experience (I'll buy that, but only up to a point.)

What "insta-promotion" are you talking about? The one Kirk has spent the last three years of his life specifically training for? That doesn't sound very "instant" to me.

Kirk's "insta-promotion" has a lot in common with most of the "overnight successes" who've been performing their craft for years and years.

Ya know, a friend of mine was a mere grad student one day, and just a few days later, the university "suddenly" gave him the Ph.D. he'd spent years studying for. Is he an insta-Doctor?

I've got the feeling that Kirk was only weeks, perhaps days, from graduating as a full Captain anyway.
 
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