Hey, maybe they can do a story without making jokes. You know, like just a regular story.
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Why would you want a story without jokes?
Moffat brought a horror element to Who which was refreshing. I miss Matt Smith as the Doctor; I thought he was so cool and very alien. Moffat nailed that element of the Doctor I thought with Smith, and it was fun, so much fun on Moffat's travels from time and space. I hope the Weeping Angels don't go.
I would just like to mention that one of my favorite parts from "The War Games" is when the War Lord has the War Chief killed. The War Chief claims that the Doctor's resistance group killed the Security Chief but the War Lord immediately sees through the lie and quietly says, "No, you killed him."
Philip Madoc is one of the all-time great Doctor Who guest actors. He could do quiet menace like in "The War Games" or he could be a raving lunatic like Solon in "The Brain of Morbius."
I'd be cool with that. I wish Torchwood had done more episodes exploring the earlier Torchwood teams.
I'm amazed those are the same actor. I can't even recognize him as Solon, with such different hair -- but then, I initially didn't recognize him as the War Lord (after seeing him as Eelek in "The Krotons") with the beard and glasses. It's only by the voice that he's recognizable, really. I'm not sure when I'll get around to "Morbius" -- I may have to put my rewatch on hold, since I may have to cancel my Netflix DVD service if my finances don't improve soon. But when I eventually do, I'll be curious to see it now that I know the actor's other roles.
(By the way, does the "Morbius" DVD fix the audio on episode 1? The version I always saw in the past was somehow missing the music and sound effects tracks on episode 1, which was very off-putting.)
I'd like to see the back of:
- Children with scary voices,
- Convoluted story arcs that waste multiple series and never amount to anything,
- Mary Sue companions,
- Any further meddling with (what had been) the rules of regeneration,
- Any further retroactive imposition of modern meddling onto the Classic Series,
- The dictatorship of the show-runner.
A lovely man, btw: he came along to the pub screening of Eleventh Hour, and then led the pub crawl up the road when the place closed early. So that ended up as a very pleasant drunken night.
His Dad's Army episode reran here last week. It works because he's so low-key menacing as the Nazi u-boat captain, yet still nails the punchlines. Look for The Deadly Attachment on YouTube.
I don't recall any problems on my Region 1 DVD version, so... probably?
I always thought it was cool how Doctor Who can show so many different sides to actors that they could use an actor multiple times in the same season in different roles. During Patrick Troughton's final season, they not only used Philip Madoc twice ("The Krotons" & "The War Games"), they also used Bernard Horsfall twice as both Gulliver in "The Mind Robber" & one of the Time Lords at the end of "The War Games." (Of course, the most ballsy reuse is when Peter Purves appeared twice in the same story. In "The Chase," he plays both the Alabama hillbilly at the Empire State Building in Part 3 and Steven Taylor in Part 6. But because he played the 2 characters so differently, I watched the story 3 times and still didn't notice it until they pointed it out in the bonus features.)
Yup. Although now that I watched them both in relatively close succession and with awareness of that fact, I couldn't help noticing that Horsfall used exactly the same delivery and cadence in both roles. I'd assumed he was putting on that formal, declamatory voice because he was playing a period literary character, but his Time Lord sounded exactly the same.
The neat thing about the casting of the Time Lord tribunal is that two of its members would return to play Time Lord chancellors -- Clyde Pollitt played the nameless Chancellor in "The Three Doctors," and of course Horsfall would return as Chancellor Goth in "The Deadly Assassin." So it's easy to pretend they're the same Time Lords (and the TARDIS Wiki does exactly that). There's even a short story claiming that Gulliver was actually Goth in disguise, though I think that's silly. (And the third tribunal member, Trevor Martin, would play the Doctor in the stage play Doctor Who and the Daleks in Seven Keys to Doomsday. So all three of them returned to play Time Lords again.)
"Formal" and "declaratory" are pretty par for the course for Time Lords.
^Yeah, but the particular cadence Horsfall used sounded more, well, literary. Like a character reciting poetry -- fittingly, as he was actually reciting prose as Gulliver.
Honestly, I thought so before I read DIcks was in favor of that idea. Its not an immensly radical idea either, is it?
I believe that's a problem limited to specific videotapes circulated in North America.
Okay. Well, the lack of music/SFX on that episode does underline how the production methods had changed since the early days. In the black-and-white era, the music and sound effects ("grams") were piped into the stage live during recording, rather than dubbed on afterward.
I don't know what caused it exactly (someone grabbed the wrong tape when sending it downstairs for duplication?) but it also affected Part Two of the four-part version of Resurrection of the Daleks in North America.
The original UK broadcast also had a problem at the same point, though a different one: the sound FX for the Trooper and station guns suddenly swap.
At a guess, the dubbing section had to break off work for a day or so, and in the meantime Enterprises made a copy of the half-complete master tape for overseas distribution, before dubbing work resumed with some notes misread.
Draconians, definitely. Frontier in Space was one of my favorite Third Doctor stories and it would have been even more epic with good special effects.
I think the Weeping Angels can be used again if it's the right story. The Tenth Doctor comic did a great story with the Weeping Angels in World War I about two years ago.
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