Things that really took you by surprise
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startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
well it is an alternate timeline like I don't care if the film had flaws just enjoy the film.
Yeah the whole "red matter" stuff coupled with a "supernova" that can destroy a whole galaxy... please... Not to mention there is a super massive black hole about three minutes at warp 5 away from Earth!
That and the sound effects for the shuttles and hand phasers, didn't like 'em.
I did love the movie though. The Bridge was breathtaking!
And bits of Nero thinking about it. Did his ship actually blow up?
I think with the amount of damage the Enterprise was doing to the ship (we see the arms collapse into the singularity/main body), I reckon that the structural integrity of the ship wasn't sufficient to survive the gravitational forces that were being exerted upon the ship. Even if the vessel managed to survive the transit, I doubt the power generation systems would have stayed stable for much longer.
Since it seems that objects exit the wormhole at different times, it is probably the debris was spread out gradually over a long period of time since it fell in gradually.
I was surpised that they didn't hit the reset button and restore planet Vulcan.
What? You didn't watch the movie on LSD?
Maybe. Perhaps the energy of the supernova combined with the passing of ships through the singularity is what causes the 'lightning storm in space'?
Even allowing for whatever magnifying effect the red matter might have, you're still talking about the mass of one Space Octopus Narada (admittedly large for what it is, but pretty dinky on a cosmic scale) -- hardly supermassive, and because of that probably not very long-lived. And if it didn't dissipate, well, how much gravitational force would the mass of a seven-mile-long spaceship exert?
An interesting notion -- belching out a batch of spare parts and debris every twenty-five years or so. Heh.
I suspect the Narad and Jellyfish survived bacause they were tough ships, with structural integrity fields and other techniologies that allowed them to remain structurally intact.
The Narada may be the way it is because of some regenerative technology, and in the Countdown comics, got this from Borg/Romulan hybrid technology.
The Jellyfish, according to Countdown, was created for extreme environments, and thus may have had some capabilities to survive severe gravitational environments.
Once the Narada is blown to bits, and essentially torn in half, no force field or regenerative capabilities would save it from spaghettification, and it would be gravitationally destroyed even on the subatomic level, and it's energy released as an X-Ray Burst.
The Narada may be the way it is because of some regenerative technology, and in the Countdown comics, got this from Borg/Romulan hybrid technology.
The Jellyfish, according to Countdown, was created for extreme environments, and thus may have had some capabilities to survive severe gravitational environments.
Once the Narada is blown to bits, and essentially torn in half, no force field or regenerative capabilities would save it from spaghettification, and it would be gravitationally destroyed even on the subatomic level, and it's energy released as an X-Ray Burst.
Another thing to consider about the Narada is that it's a mining vessel, which presumably means it has to get close to planetary or asteroid scale objects and gravitational fields, so I can see it having massively pumped up structural integrity fields.
Things that took me by surprise?? The cool retro way that women characters were so negligible unless of course they gave birth to one of the important men or were an important man's girlfriend! And the great arse baring miniskirt uniforms - so practical on combat vessels and guaranteed to make sure that women officers and crew were presented as objects for the male gaze! After all, the fact that women in Iraq are already taking combat roles here in the primitive 21st century doesn't mean that things can't go back to "the way it should be" in the future!
Ain't it great to have the really good things about classic 60s Trek revived?
Ain't it great to have the really good things about classic 60s Trek revived?
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
Oh, you know why that happened:everybody hated the 24th century so much (thanks partly to Berman & Braga), that they want to remove all traces of it from the new movie series. That means women in minis, since women in minis were cool the first time around. Oh well.
I think that they're going to have to really think about how to expand Uhura's role storyline wise outside of her duty station aboard the ship. 'Communications officer' as a single character aspect doesn't seem to provide that much in the way of gripping story opportunities except in the few instances of translation and encryption/decryption that a movie could provide. Do you remember any dedicated communication specialist main characters after TOS besides Hoshi on Enterprise (amongst one of the least developed main characters in Star Trek according to popular opinion)?
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
thank goodness there is someone else that loves the design of the bridge I think it looks modern and stunning sorry if there is anyone that doesn't like it.
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