Because each sect had their own set territory. They couldn't go beyond their borders. This one sect didn't have access to water because the planets within their territory didn't have water.
Things that made you go... Why? or How?
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Indeed. The Kazon can't just go rolling along...
But if they haven't got the clothes there with them how do they replicate them? Plus it's not a good idea to waste your energy and resources on something so ridiculous when you are alone trapped in hostile space surely?
JB
They would have the information on how to replicate the new uniform. When they need to get a new uniform, they just create the new one rather than the older model.
printing clothing could be less resource intensive than simply washing and drying them.
You don't need to wash your clothes. The transporter can filter out the dirt just as it filters out microscopic harmful organisms as has been said a few times in the series. Actually, each time you take the transporter, it could replace your clothes with new ones as well. That doesn't seem that difficult given what it does already.
I'm binging through Voyager so forgive me for so many references.
Collective...
They have an entire Borg cube... Neutralized and relatively undamaged, that the collective has written off as irrelevant that they won't be coming for any time soon...
While they didn't show what exactly happened to it, whether they just left it or destroyed it, they clearly didn't do much with it.
WHY?!?!
You mean to tell me that they couldn't spend a few days/weeks working on that sucker? Maybe try to get it running again? If they could get it going, they could have been home within a few weeks, with a treasure trove of Borg technology for Starfleet to pick apart.
Even if the Borg discovered it was working again, and did decide to retrieve it, all they would have to do is abandon it. Maybe leave a few "presents" for the Borg to find when they got back to it. A few photon torpedoes strapped to the main power grid, rigged to go off if the ship was reassimilated, or maybe a few containers of the pathogen rendered aerosol set up to go off as soon as the Borg are back in control. That would have been extremely useful, possibly leaving them with two Borg ships.
If nothing else they could have salvaged the transwarp equipment. I'm sure the cube had more than one transwarp coil on board, or at least the equipment to make more.
I can understand certain times when the Voyager crew passed on a chance to get home sooner on ethical grounds, or due to time restraints (couldn't get the macguffin working before the machina took it away), but this was just sheer stupidity. If they had to bug out for any reason and abandon their work on the cube, no problem, nothing lost but time and they have plenty, but they just threw away a huge opportunity for no reason at all.
The only "problem" I could see would be dropping out of transwarp and causing a panic, but a few moments of explaination would take care of that.
Seriously, Janeway should have been launched out of a torpedoe tube for that call.
Collective...
They have an entire Borg cube... Neutralized and relatively undamaged, that the collective has written off as irrelevant that they won't be coming for any time soon...
While they didn't show what exactly happened to it, whether they just left it or destroyed it, they clearly didn't do much with it.
WHY?!?!
You mean to tell me that they couldn't spend a few days/weeks working on that sucker? Maybe try to get it running again? If they could get it going, they could have been home within a few weeks, with a treasure trove of Borg technology for Starfleet to pick apart.
Even if the Borg discovered it was working again, and did decide to retrieve it, all they would have to do is abandon it. Maybe leave a few "presents" for the Borg to find when they got back to it. A few photon torpedoes strapped to the main power grid, rigged to go off if the ship was reassimilated, or maybe a few containers of the pathogen rendered aerosol set up to go off as soon as the Borg are back in control. That would have been extremely useful, possibly leaving them with two Borg ships.
If nothing else they could have salvaged the transwarp equipment. I'm sure the cube had more than one transwarp coil on board, or at least the equipment to make more.
I can understand certain times when the Voyager crew passed on a chance to get home sooner on ethical grounds, or due to time restraints (couldn't get the macguffin working before the machina took it away), but this was just sheer stupidity. If they had to bug out for any reason and abandon their work on the cube, no problem, nothing lost but time and they have plenty, but they just threw away a huge opportunity for no reason at all.
The only "problem" I could see would be dropping out of transwarp and causing a panic, but a few moments of explaination would take care of that.
Seriously, Janeway should have been launched out of a torpedoe tube for that call.
Nu-Khan lapses in judgment:
1) If he knew that the Enterprise was sabotaged, he should also have known that it was in order for it to be destroyed either by the Klingons or Marcus. In that case, why would he surrender to be destroyed along with it? Khan had no way to know that the ship would have been saved in extremis by the intervention of Scotty/and or Marcus daughter on board.
2) When he told Kirk to open one of the torpedo casings, why didn't he tell him that it was rigged to explode in case of such an attempt? He didn't know that Marcus daughter would prevent the torpedo from exploding at the last second! Plus one of his lieutenants would have been killed in the process.
I mean for such a genius capable of devising an entire ship completely new and way superior to any other ship in the fleet those are serious defects.
1) If he knew that the Enterprise was sabotaged, he should also have known that it was in order for it to be destroyed either by the Klingons or Marcus. In that case, why would he surrender to be destroyed along with it? Khan had no way to know that the ship would have been saved in extremis by the intervention of Scotty/and or Marcus daughter on board.
2) When he told Kirk to open one of the torpedo casings, why didn't he tell him that it was rigged to explode in case of such an attempt? He didn't know that Marcus daughter would prevent the torpedo from exploding at the last second! Plus one of his lieutenants would have been killed in the process.
I mean for such a genius capable of devising an entire ship completely new and way superior to any other ship in the fleet those are serious defects.
Have the transporter put a half digested cheeseburger in your stomach too, after away missions, just to save time.
This is making a mountain out of a molehill - no Kazon sect actually suffered from a shortage of water in any of the episodes. Thirst was an issue in "Caretaker" only, and exclusively for the posse of Kazon who were stuck guarding the one known opening into Ocampa city and couldn't go fetch water even from the next oasis over, let alone from the local asteroid belt.
The idea that there would be territorial problems with obtaining water as such is a silly one. When Neelix tells our heroes that "some have food, some have ore, some have water", he's clearly speaking of the excess that the sects possess and use for trade. It would be just as unimaginable to have a sect without access to food than it would be to have one without access to water...
Khan wouldn't care about the ship. He'd just need access to his crew aboard that ship, after which he could depart in a suitably big shuttle, hijack the Klingon flagship, and proceed from there. He was a man of means, only limited by Marcus holding his crew hostage.
Khan could probably also predict that if he managed to get himself caught alive, Marcus would rush in to do the job Kirk and the Klingons failed to do in time. Skip one step, jump directly to the one where the superman hijacks a flagship and conquers the universe.
But the torpedo didn't explode, even though Carol completely fumbled it. A harmless squib went off instead; there demonstrably was never any real danger involved. Which goes well with the idea that Khan had to gut the torps of functional stuff in order to fit the people inside. (Scotty rambles about "fuel", but for a photorp, fuel is warhead, at least in the backstage manuals.)
Khan probably programmed the torps to show all signs of impending Armageddon in case of tampering. Telling Kirk to ignore that part would just have taken away some of his sadistic fun.
Parts of a well thought out plan, it seems to me. Play along with Marcus on this plan to draw Starfleet attention to the Klingon homeworld; make sure that said attention carries the special Khan-made long range torpedoes as the means of igniting the desired war; at the right moment, get hold of those torps; cease to be slave to Marcus and conquer the universe.
What went wrong? Nothing much, except Spock, who was no stranger to also thinking 47 steps ahead and did the switcharoo with the corpsicles and the explosives.
Timo Saloniemi
Starfleet Tactical began rolling out the new weaponry and tricorders to all ships and stations beginning in 2371, but in order to promote uniformity, adapted a strict date (in early 2372) when all of Starfleet would adapt the new style.
DS9 may have gotten their's closer to the deadline. Voyager got them early because it was a newly launched ship. They didn't need to use them early on because they had plenty of old-style tech.
Worst Case Scenario.
I consider this a good episode, because the premise that Tuvok wrote a training holo-program for a possible Maquis insurgency, which the crew then discovered and treated like a novel, is awesome.
The...WHY? in this episode is where it went. The idea that Seska, before she was captured, left this trap behind, makes no sense. She thought at the time she was too clever to get caught, and basically left this program as a signed confession. Worse, if the program worked the way she expected, she would have been simultaneously captured and made into the one that murdered Tuvok.
I consider this a good episode, because the premise that Tuvok wrote a training holo-program for a possible Maquis insurgency, which the crew then discovered and treated like a novel, is awesome.
The...WHY? in this episode is where it went. The idea that Seska, before she was captured, left this trap behind, makes no sense. She thought at the time she was too clever to get caught, and basically left this program as a signed confession. Worse, if the program worked the way she expected, she would have been simultaneously captured and made into the one that murdered Tuvok.
1, Its nearly impossible to hid things from your kids...I know!
2, The most important thing in the universe to Kirk and Picard is Themselves!
3, Already sorted..
Kirk "I cant believe I kissed you" Martia " Must have been your lifelong ambition!"
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