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Things that frustrate us all

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Humor is subjective. Anything can be funny under the right circumstances. I would never joke about someone who committed suicide recently, but what if it happened 50 or 100 years ago? De gustibus non est disputandum.
 
When you didn't realize that your P+ subscription was set to renew 3 days after the latest Star Trek series ends, and you accidentally end up paying for an extra month you don't need. :brickwall:
 
Just wait for the DVDs, and you can own the physcal media outright, and watch what you want, whenever you want, as often as you want, for as long as you want (and yes, that's an allusion to the Great Bird's convention lecture about Questor)
 
Just wait for the DVDs, and you can own the physcal media outright, and watch what you want, whenever you want, as often as you want, for as long as you want

No need to convince me, I am a huge fan of physical media. (Although TBH I always go for an HD format, and only buy DVDs if there is literally no better format available.). Fortunately, Trek is a streaming property that still gets home media releases, although no idea if that will continue under the new ownership.

However, when it comes to Trek, I’m also impatient, and want to see it as soon as possible. :lol: So I sign up for P+ for the minimum time possible (at least that’s the plan! 😣) in order to catch the new episodes as they are released. (I’m also very spoiler-adverse, so not watching as it’s released opens up the potential to be exposed to spoilers I don’t want to see, either here, or in the wider internet.)
 
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Yea, this pisses me off. The Rs have wanted to do this for years. Anything to privatize the system.


Tiny vent... just saw that the family size bag of York Peppermint Patties, is over $10 a bag now. :eek:
 
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When your library holds don't come in time for book club. I'm having to audio book my book club book this month since I'm still waiting on my hold, and I have to read the book by Saturday morning.
 
When I sold stuff on Ebay or elsewhere - you have no rights as a seller. Whenever I think I have something highly valuable, chances are it turns into a freakshow where the buyer ends up complaining, begging, and crying for a return - then threatening to report me for explaining myself. This isn't always the case, but with the hassle I've gone through with Ebay and other places, I'm done trying to sell. I'll just donate anonymously from now on for the most part. My policy as a buyer has always been no returns, for any reason.

Yet I always seem to come across these idiotic people who don't understand how to read a listing. I listed everything I can think of in the description box, and people still find something to complain about when they get the item. If something happens to the package, or item in shipping - that is out of my control, and I have no obligation to validate a return.

People these days find a reason to complain about everything and make it personal for no reason. Common sense is increasingly rare, and people who actually read a description are even rarer.

I recently sold an item on Facebook Marketplace. The sale went fine. Then a few days later the buyer is already asking questions about it. I listed everything in the description when I sold it. When it is out my door, and purchased, I have no reason to care or to feel sorry for them - when they are incapable of reading or doing research about the item on their own.
 
When I sold stuff on Ebay or elsewhere - you have no rights as a seller. Whenever I think I have something highly valuable, chances are it turns into a freakshow where the buyer ends up complaining, begging, and crying for a return - then threatening to report me for explaining myself. This isn't always the case, but with the hassle I've gone through with Ebay and other places, I'm done trying to sell. I'll just donate anonymously from now on for the most part. My policy as a buyer has always been no returns, for any reason.

Yet I always seem to come across these idiotic people who don't understand how to read a listing. I listed everything I can think of in the description box, and people still find something to complain about when they get the item. If something happens to the package, or item in shipping - that is out of my control, and I have no obligation to validate a return.

People these days find a reason to complain about everything and make it personal for no reason. Common sense is increasingly rare, and people who actually read a description are even rarer.

I recently sold an item on Facebook Marketplace. The sale went fine. Then a few days later the buyer is already asking questions about it. I listed everything in the description when I sold it. When it is out my door, and purchased, I have no reason to care or to feel sorry for them - when they are incapable of reading or doing research about the item on their own.


Can relate to this.

It's happened to me in the past with selling DVD box sets I wanted to sell off. They were packed nicely, and securely but every now and then you would get a buyer complaining about damage to the packaging, and like you said it's something outside of the sellers control.


I did this for a while to clear out my old library of stuff but once it was all gone I decided to dump ebay, and also paypal.
 
Can relate to this.

It's happened to me in the past with selling DVD box sets I wanted to sell off. They were packed nicely, and securely but every now and then you would get a buyer complaining about damage to the packaging, and like you said it's something outside of the sellers control.


I did this for a while to clear out my old library of stuff but once it was all gone I decided to dump ebay, and also paypal.

Not only speaking of my own experiences here, but also that of family members who sold stuff and had the same issue. So I am glad I dumped selling stuff on Ebay.

I may very well dump selling stuff on Facebook Marketplace. When you meet people face to face it is harder for people to work up the courage to complain to you, but a recent situation that I've had makes me question the intelligence of the people I am dealing with. If someone can't read, or understand what an item is and what it does - then I don't think they should be buying it.
 
If something happens to the package, or item in shipping - that is out of my control, and I have no obligation to validate a return.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this is not how it works, at least not in the US. (It is possible it is different for other countries.)

There are of course scammy buyers out there, no doubt. But if a package is legitimately damaged during transport, it is your responsibility as the seller to make it right. You are responsible for the package up until the time it is delivered at the customer's address. I believe the only exception to that is if you are shipping something through the GSP, in which case you are only responsible for it until it reaches the international shipping hub, and then Ebay is responsible for it thereafter (thereby giving you some protection on international purchases).

You can choose not to accept returns, but damage during transport is a situation where Ebay can and will override that. If you don't allow the return and the customer files a claim, Ebay will charge you for the refund, and in most cases will still let the customer keep the item, so in that case, you will be out both the money and the item, whereas if you allowed the return, you would at least get the (damaged) item back.

As the seller, you are the customer of the shipping company, so it is you that would have to make the claim for damages against the shipper. The shipper will not even interact with the buyer, and will tell them to contact the seller instead.

Just think about it from the other perspective: if you bought something online, and the item arrived damaged, are you just going to say "oh well" and accept it? Most likely you would reach out to the company to get a replacement or refund. When you're selling through Ebay, you may not be a company, but you are still the seller, and you are still responsible for ensuring the customer gets the item in the condition it is supposed to be in.

This is, of course, just responding to the sentence I quoted. For the other instances where there was no damage during shipment, and people are just trying to get money out of you because they didn't read the description, yeah, that's on them, and I can 100% understand how that would be very frustrating.

Its often in favour of the buyer

As it should be. Consumer protection laws are a thing. (Again, assuming the claim is legitimate and people are not just trying to scam you. But then they should be able to back up their claims with photographic evidence.)
 
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this is not how it works, at least not in the US. (It is possible it is different for other countries.)

There are of course scammy buyers out there, no doubt. But if a package is legitimately damaged during transport, it is your responsibility as the seller to make it right. You are responsible for the package up until the time it is delivered at the customer's address. I believe the only exception to that is if you are shipping something through the GSP, in which case you are only responsible for it until it reaches the international shipping hub, and then Ebay is responsible for it thereafter (thereby giving you some protection on international purchases).

You can choose not to accept returns, but damage during transport is a situation where Ebay can and will override that. If you don't allow the return and the customer files a claim, Ebay will charge you for the refund, and in most cases will still let the customer keep the item, so in that case, you will be out both the money and the item, whereas if you allowed the return, you would at least get the (damaged) item back.

As the seller, you are the customer of the shipping company, so it is you that would have to make the claim for damages against the shipper. The shipper will not even interact with the buyer, and will tell them to contact the seller instead.

Just think about it from the other perspective: if you bought something online, and the item arrived damaged, are you just going to say "oh well" and accept it? Most likely you would reach out to the company to get a replacement or refund. When you're selling through Ebay, you may not be a company, but you are still the seller, and you are still responsible for ensuring the customer gets the item in the condition it is supposed to be in.

This is, of course, just responding to the sentence I quoted. For the other instances where there was no damage during shipment, and people are just trying to get money out of you because they didn't read the description, yeah, that's on them, and I can 100% understand how that would be very frustrating.

You may be correct on this, however in my interactions, this is not what happened. I recall several instances where I sold an item, and it was perfectly usable/listed as described and the buyer made up all kinds of excuses about it saying that I did this, or that wrong, complained about the packaging.

In the cases where something legitimate occurs and the person is not nasty about it, I would agree with you - I am specifically speaking about the cases where people were nasty and disrespectful for no logical purpose. There's also the possibility that they were making up stories. If someone says something is damaged, how am I to actually know for sure they are telling the truth?

All in all - I have stopped selling on Ebay. I won't be dealing with this stuff again.
 
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