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Things that frustrate us all

Yeah, it'll proably sit there for a while yet :lol:

I assume you have seen Born Into This? Honestly, I couldn't care less what Bono thinks about him, but the archive stuff of the man himself is fantastic.

Apparently James Franco shot a movie of Ham on Rye, and then got sued because he didn't have the rights. So they have rebranded it into a biographical film about Bukowski instead, which is essentially the same thing really. Out soonish, pending court cases no doubt. Should be... interesting.
 
Yeah I've seen Born Into This, it's on USA Netflix. Agreed that who gives a crap about what Bono has to say about Bukwoski, but yes I do love the footage.

I think you would really like the 2-hour interview (I'll have to look and see what it's called) because it's basically an unedited 2 hours of just...him. And he was so fed up at the time from the way the actors and staff on Barfly were acting that by the time they interviewed him, he just ripped into them the whole time. :lol:

Didn't know about the Ham on Rye remake, but I look forward to seeing what that is. At least for Barfly, they had Bukowski alive and there to make comments etc.
 
Yeah, I was going to ask. Please let me know what it is called, as it sounds good. I can't see any 2 hour interview on Youtube though, so it may be nobody has ever ripped it.
 
Yeah I will have a look see through the bowels of my DVDs haha.

It's multi-disc for some reason. I think because it was from a while back before they could shove so much onto one disc.
 
Ah, I remember now. It's a collection of interviews turned into documentary called "The Charles Bukowski Tapes". It's been so long since I have seen it that my mind got confused. I didn't find it in my DVD collection yet, but I just remembered. You can find info on it online. My mind is trying to reassemble stuff I saw like 10 years ago. :lol:

Basically it's a 4 hour-long collection of interviews with Bukowski during the making of Barfly. But it's not all just one interview.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Charles_Bukowski_Tapes

"The documentary was assembled from about 64 hours of film footage, which occurred during the three-year lead time for Schroeder’s motion picture Barfly, for which Bukowski wrote the autobiographical script."

So my bad, not unedited. It's pretty great if you can find it. Lots of footage. It's many interviews now that I am reading the info on it, but it feels like one long one when you watch it. Because they were all taken within such a short period of time.

Now I'm mad I can't find it in my collection. My fault for it being super unorganized and all over the place. :scream:
 
As far as what gripes at me--and I really don't have much to complain about compared to most folks overseas--but here goes.

NASA bashers/enemies of SLS.

Movies like Capricorn One

And at number one.--stingy idiot employers.
 
The only reason I think you would like him too is because he is really REALLY good at seeing positive things and making light of what others might perceive as shitty situations. Which is really the only comparison I see in the two of you based on just what I know of you from the board.
Most of my adult life has been disappointing for me. There were two highlights. There was a marriage that nearly ended after 4 years, and did end less than 3 years later, when I was 27. It was also the end of trying to earn a college degree, I never completed junior year. A few crappy jobs followed, but I had started learning about computers, could type fast, and that led to the best job I had from about 31 to 39, putting me squarely in middle class.

Then it was back to crummy jobs, and then the stroke took me out of action entirely shortly after 50. So I don't really get inspired reading about or watching films about people on the skids, it's too close to home. Apparently this is how I was destined to be, though I don't feel it's who I really am.

But the truth is I'm a guy with a 2 year degree who didn't have the life he expected to have. Some of us succeed, some of us don't. But even at this lower social level, I've always tried to be a good person and help others when I can. Maybe that's what was really intended for me. I've got disability money, I'm not stressed out any more since I don't work, and my blood pressure isn't sky high anymore.

It all evens out in the long run, and we're all going to wind up the same way once the existence in this material plane is ended.
 
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The only reason I think you would like him too is because he is really REALLY good at seeing positive things and making light of what others might perceive as shitty situations. Which is really the only comparison I see in the two of you based on just what I know of you from the board.
Most of my adult life has been disappointing for me. There were two highlights. There was a marriage that nearly ended after 4 years, and did end less than 3 years later, when I was 27. It was also the end of trying to earn a college degree, I never completed junior year. A few crappy jobs followed, but I had started learning about computers, could type fast, and that led to the best job I had from about 31 to 39, putting me squarely in middle class.

Then it was back to crummy jobs, and then the stroke took me out of action entirely shortly after 50. So I don't really get inspired reading about or watching films about people on the skids, it's too close to home. Apparently this is how I was destined to be, though I don't feel it's who I really am.

But the truth is I'm a guy with a 2 year degree who didn't have the life he expected to have. Some of us succeed, some of us don't. But even at this lower social level, I've always tried to be a good person and help others when I can. Maybe that's what was really intended for me. I've got disability money, I'm not stressed out any more since I don't work, and my blood pressure isn't sky high anymore.

It all evens out in the long run, and we're all going to wind up the same way once the existence in this material plane is ended.

Agreed.

I didn't mean anything bad by saying I thought you might like Bukowski.

I'm not working at the moment... left my job last week. It's a bit scary but I'm hoping something good will come my way soon.
 
I was lucky with that good job. I got it originally through the state employment office as a temporary position for a data entry operator (typist) expected to last 6 weeks. After 2 weeks, I had 75% of the information finished and they offered me a permanent position as a fancy title clerk job, processing orders for new service. It was with a telecommunications company. It was about 1982, and they started me that first year at $17k. The year before, I'd only made $8k, so it was like being suddenly rich for the first time. A few years later, I transferred to another city with them to work in a computer room. When I finally got laid off in 1990, I was near $40k. This is how far down in the dumps I fell, the jobs afterwards and the disability were less than half that, even below 17k. Currently I get enough that I'm a few hundred dollars above poverty level for a single male with no dependents. So things could be worse.
 
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Management making a decision that affects only me thinking it's the best for all involved. Yep, I'll always take a 20% pay cut and 100% increase in bullshit!
 
alas, that seems to be a very common procedure nowadays. It's only a very small comfort, I know, but at least you are not alone in this.

{{{Melakon}}} I never understood why people should get measured by the wealth they have accumulated. In my opinion the personal traits are far more important. What good is a rich moron to the world, compared to - for example - a poor street musician who brightens people's days?
You are one of the nicest and most intelligent posters here which is a quantum leap better than all Wall Street billionaires together and I'm proud to know you, no matter what your social or financial status are!

I'm not working at the moment... left my job last week. It's a bit scary but I'm hoping something good will come my way soon.
Wow! That was a curageous thing to do. Frankly, I wouldn't have dared it unless I had already found another job. Good luck! I hope you'll find something really great soon


My argh-moment today: the [insert un-ladylike curses here] elevator at my house is out of order yet again. It used to work perfectly for 40 years. Then, about a month ago, they "modernized" it and ever since it's been out of order every morning and getting repaired during the day only to be broken again the next morning. Unfortunately, I have a sort of penthouse appartment and an injured foot (stepped into a shard of glass).
 
The only reason I think you would like him too is because he is really REALLY good at seeing positive things and making light of what others might perceive as shitty situations. Which is really the only comparison I see in the two of you based on just what I know of you from the board.
Most of my adult life has been disappointing for me. There were two highlights. There was a marriage that nearly ended after 4 years, and did end less than 3 years later, when I was 27. It was also the end of trying to earn a college degree, I never completed junior year. A few crappy jobs followed, but I had started learning about computers, could type fast, and that led to the best job I had from about 31 to 39, putting me squarely in middle class.

Then it was back to crummy jobs, and then the stroke took me out of action entirely shortly after 50. So I don't really get inspired reading about or watching films about people on the skids, it's too close to home. Apparently this is how I was destined to be, though I don't feel it's who I really am.

But the truth is I'm a guy with a 2 year degree who didn't have the life he expected to have. Some of us succeed, some of us don't. But even at this lower social level, I've always tried to be a good person and help others when I can. Maybe that's what was really intended for me. I've got disability money, I'm not stressed out any more since I don't work, and my blood pressure isn't sky high anymore.

It all evens out in the long run, and we're all going to wind up the same way once the existence in this material plane is ended.

I want to hug you.
 
Thanks for the kind words, Rhub.

I want to hug you.
I'd take it. ;)

The worst of it, really, is knowing I once had a life where yeah, I wasn't making an exceptional amount of money, but it was the most I'd ever earned in my life. I was comfortable, and could usually buy anything I wanted within reason (less than $500) for a given month, without having to think about it and not balancing the checkbook for a couple of years.

So I know that lifestyle is long gone, and the only way I'll ever see it again is if I won a lottery or something (but I don't play). Some people though, they go through a change like that, can't cope with it, and end it all. I don't think I'm any better than them, but it all depends on your personal outlook of what's important. We didn't have money when I was growing up, so this is only slightly worse than how things were when I was a kid.
 
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I want to hug you.
I'd take it. ;)

The worst of it, really, is knowing I once had a life where yeah, I wasn't making an exceptional amount of money, but it was the most I'd ever earned in my life. I was comfortable, and could usually buy anything I wanted within reason (less than $500) for a given month, without having to think about it and not balancing the checkbook for a couple of years.

So I know that lifestyle is long gone, and the only way I'll ever see it again is if I won a lottery or something (but I don't play). Some people though, they go through a change like that, can't cope with it, and end it all. I don't think I'm any better than them, but it all depends on your personal outlook of what's important. We didn't have money when I was growing up, so this is only slightly worse than how things were when I was a kid.

[hugs]

Like you, I grew up with little money. There were days at a time where my family and I would go without food. Sometimes no power, other times no water. Often no car, several times, no home. We tried our best to learn and grow in that environment, and through it all I kept on going. I was a voracious reader, and absorbed every little tidbit I could to use towards my education. I excelled in school, blew the doors off every test I took. I had been born a preemie, and the doctors were concerned my development would be poor, intellectually and emotionally, but by the time I was 3 I was reading, by 8 I was reading books meant for college students, so I showed them that not only would I learn, I would learn faster than everyone else. My future was assured, or so it seemed.

Quite often I worry about my own future. I don't treasure money, but I do realize its usefulness, and necessity. Unfortunately, the parts of life I do, or would, treasure aren't available to me, and as I get older, and my health problems increase, I fear that my life will end up having no value to myself. My life has amounted to very little so far, and not for lack of trying. I've spent the vast majority of it serving others to my great personal detriment. I have no money, no job, no relationship, no real freedom. I never thought it would be like this, not in a million years.

In high school, I was the smart guy, the one you could copy your answers from during the test and know you were going to pass it with flying colors. I was the resourceful one, the one who was going to go places. I even believed it myself. I was the good boy. I always did what I was asked, and knew that I didn't have to worry, things would work out and I would have a good education/career/relationship, and to look back on the wreckage that is this life I've lead is just heartbreaking for me. I didn't even get off the ground, much less soar to new heights.

I would never contemplate suicide as a viable solution, since that would actually go against my desire for a long, happy life, but like you explain, I can see why some can't cope with the idea, and choose to end it all.

Futility frustrates me.
 
I hear you, J., and you're probably much more intelligent than I, since my grades were never exceptional. One thing I've always liked about the internet is it removes that visual facade of wealth and class and even gender, and you're interacting with people at the purest level-- their mind. All the posturing about wealth and the size of your house and what kind of car you drive if any are meaningless. The mind is the soul laid bare here, and creativity I think is one of the most valuable things we can have in that mind, whether it's in being able to draw a straight line or write a story, or just entertain ideas on philosophical concepts. The kinds of clothes one is or isn't wearing is unimportant here. The individual person is what matters.

With this kind of talk, I probably should have been a preacher like dad, but never felt the call.
 
I hear you, J., and you're probably much more intelligent than I, since my grades were never exceptional. One thing I've always liked about the internet is it removes that visual facade of wealth and class, and you're interacting with people at the purest level-- their mind. All the posturing about wealth and the size of your house and what kind of car you drive if any are meaningless. The mind is the soul laid bare here, and creativity I think is one of the most valuable things we can have in that mind, whether it's in being able to draw a straight line or write a story, or just entertain ideas on philosophical concepts. The kinds of clothes one is or isn't wearing is unimportant here. The individual person is what matters.

With this kind of talk, I probably should have been a preacher like dad, but never felt the call.

Interestingly enough, I was a preacher for a number of years, though I'm an agnostic at best now, but yes, you do sound like a preacher. I also can't help but agree with you, though the loneliness still cuts like a knife, and feels like a stone on my chest. That I don't handle so well, and I'm always afraid I'm a step away from just breaking down, even though I don't have the luxury.
 
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