Things in Season One we never heard or saw again...
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I agree, but it was a bit overdone. Besides the original crew eere supposed to have been legends and the TNG folks are on the same named ship...you expect someone to have a bit of familiarity. Especially with those cheesy gold spray painted model halfs on the wall in the observation lounge.
^Riker did.
I dunno. Seems like a goofy leap of logic.
Just because you're on a ship with a paticular name dosen't necessairly have to mean you've got intimate, detailed, knowledge of all the misions (even the minor ones) of same-named ships over the last 100 years.
Although think of the potential...when ever Picard got pissed he could toss a croissant at someone or duel with a bagguette (sp?)...perhaps offer an attractive costar a bit of fromage...and of course, everytime he was shocked by something he would jump up and utter "...sacre bleu...". Don't forget replacing his love of archeology with the love of the art of mime...
Gowron: "Worf..what is Picard doing there?"
Worf: "He calls that the 'invisible wall' and now he is doing 'walking in the wind'."
Gowron: "Amazing...(eyes bug out)...Utterly believable"
Worf: "Agreed, he is a master"
Hey man, goofy leaps are what I am all about.
I don't know why they didn't simply change Picard's name and back-story to English ones when Stewart signed on. Otherwise it just dosen't make sense that Picard is French when he speaks with an Enlgish accent and drinks tea religously.
Would it have been that big of a deal to change his name to John Luke Picker or something?
Would it have been that big of a deal to change his name to John Luke Picker or something?
It also begs the question of why the powers that be would go for back to back French starship Captains.
In Voyager, before Kate Mulgrew got Janeway, the Captain's role (Don't know if the name was Janeway or not) was filled by Genieve(sp?) Bujold, a french actress who quit after one or two days because Robert Picardo kept farting, or something like that anyway.
In Voyager, before Kate Mulgrew got Janeway, the Captain's role (Don't know if the name was Janeway or not) was filled by Genieve(sp?) Bujold, a french actress who quit after one or two days because Robert Picardo kept farting, or something like that anyway.
* Geordi's Red Suit, and his sexuality, apparently.
* Boring stories.
* Those "Conspiracy" aliens.
* Data's ability to use contractions.
* Boring stories.
* Those "Conspiracy" aliens.
* Data's ability to use contractions.
well, it is the 24th century and all, so it seems reasonable to imagine a world in which cultures are far more blended. (seeing as transportation occurs in the blink of an eye) Maybe Picard spent most of his youth in an English school. he could have transported there everyday from his home in France. i never saw it as a glaring discrepency.
Anyways, someone mentioned the conspiracy creatures, and it was too bad that they never came back, even if just for one episode. another missed oppertunity but oh well.
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"What is the name of your vessel?"
Riker: "The lollipop. She's a good ship."
How about "Permission to leave the bridge"? Was that in season one?
od0_ital said:
I got one for the list - Lore's facial tick!
Didn't Lore fix it to emulate Data?
The idea that the TOS crew were seen as "legends" in later eras, or in their own time, is an invention of fandom, projecting their own affinities onto the fictional characters of the Trek universe. Perhaps to some extent it's also a creation of Roddenberry's TMP novelization. But there's little support for it in canon. Sure, Kirk & co. saved the Earth a couple of times, but they were just one starship crew out of dozens.
And as you mention, there were multiple other starships named Enterprise, both before and after Kirk's ship. There's no reason to assume that everyone who served on a ship named Enterprise would be an expert in the career of James T. Kirk and his crew, as opposed to Archer, April, Pike, Harriman, or Garrett, or the crews of the various oceangoing ships of that name.
How does it not make sense? Even today, there's abundant immigration and cultural blending in the world. Europe is becoming a single socioeconomic community, England and France are joined by the Chunnel -- how is it remotely implausible that the cultural blending would've advanced even further by the 24th century?
In Picard's time, Europe is probably as united as the US is today. France and England would be no more separate cultures than, say, Mississippi and Pennsylvania.
Picard was a French captain played by an English actor. Elizabeth Janeway (her original name) would've been an American captain played by a French actress. Bujold did not use a French accent in the role.
And Genevieve Bujold left because the pacing of television production was too rushed for her, and because she insisted on playing a softer, more vulnerable character than the producers wanted.
Real World explanation: it started to fray very badly, since it was made for random use in a few TOS episodes, not daily use for a year.
In fact, the Season Two Writers' Bible and a press release described the new metal sash as something Worf could use as a weapon during combat.
The legendary nature of Kirk's 5 year mission is supported by Voyager. One admiral mentions that Janeway has made "more first contacts than anyone since James Kirk" and Icheb also mentions Kirk's "historic" five year mission in an oral report on the early starfleet history.
Kirk's 'legendary' status seemed to grow as the 24th century shows went on. 'Trials and Tribble-ations' started it, and then Voyager continued with the examples erastus25 gave. Basically Kirk and company were mentioned more and more as the original 'separating new Trek from old Trek' concept faded away.
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