Things I never noticed before.

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by A.V.I.A.F., Mar 8, 2012.

  1. Ssosmcin

    Ssosmcin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The automatic doors were absolutely done intentionally. Why didn't Kirk and Spock notice them? Consider that they come from a society that has automatic doors so commonplace that they never notice their own. It's not an obvious thing, really, so it escaped their notice because they are used to it, even in so primitive a setting. Shortly thereafter, things got hectic and everything was turning weird.

    As a kid, it slipped my notice, so think about it A.V.I.A.F. You just noticed it, also. :-)
     
  2. Ziriath

    Ziriath Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    The only lever-opened door we've seen in a 23th century environment was at Captain Pike's hospital room in The Menagerie.
     
  3. GSchnitzer

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    Not true. Captain Kirk exits Dr. Tom Leighton's 23rd century home at the beginning of "Conscience of the King" by pulling open the 20th century-style lever door handle.
     
  4. Ziriath

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    You are right. But rare lever-opened door at the room of a man, who cannot move his arms, is quite an ironic thing anyway.
     
  5. Timo

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    ...Or then sensible medical thinking. Keeps the poor thing from wandering away.

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  6. Green Shirt

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    In the 24th century, Wesley's room at Starfleet Academy had a pull open handle door, IIRC.
     
  7. Tyberius

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    I assumed Organians were imitating a stagnant society of the future and just decided that automated doors were commonplace in the past, so why not.
     
  8. Therin of Andor

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    Definitely.

    The only door handle in all of TOS was on Injured Pike's quarters on a starbase. They didn't want that man escaping! So cruel.
     
  9. CorporalCaptain

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    Hmmm? Here's a few more doorhandles in TOS (but not all, by any means):

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  10. Knight Templar

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    Maybe the Organian Council chamber doors are like the "automatic" doors on the Star Trek set.

    Meaning they have two guys sitting back there with ropes to open the doors on cue.
     
  11. Forbin

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  12. CorporalCaptain

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    What happened? I thought I used the URL tag.

    I just checked the edit; no IMG tags used. :confused:
     
  13. Mutai Sho-Rin

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    Please see my reply to your PM. I have also cc'd T'Bonz to see if I correctly understand the rule. If I blew it, she'll advise us and you can put them back. Otherwise, copy the images into a Photobucket or similar account of your own for use here on the board.
     
  14. GSchnitzer

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    We see door handles, of course, on old buildings--like in "Miri" and "Return of the Archons," "Tomorrow Is Yesterday," "Catspaw," and so on.

    But from a 23rd Century standpoint, not only do we see a door handle on Captain Pike's hospital room door:

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    ...but we also see that Tom Leighton has a door handle in his 23rd Century home:

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    ...and we see that the hinged door to the court room on Starbase 11 pulls open in "Court Martial:"

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    ...and we see that George Kirk's lab on 23rd Century Deneva also has a door with a handle:

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  15. CorporalCaptain

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    Here's the list of episodes I found, some of those in which door handles occurred on screen in TOS.

    Miri
    The Menagerie, Part II
    The Squire of Gothos
    Tomorrow Is Yesterday
    The Return of the Archons
    The City on the Edge of Forever
    Catspaw
    Assignment: Earth
    Spectre of the Gun
    Requiem for Methuselah

    Of those, the handles in Miri, The Menagerie, Part II and The Return of the Archons are presumably all alien and not facsimiles of Earth structures (assuming the one on Rigel VII was accurate and not just made up for the illusion; and unless Miri's planet was really a total copy of Earth).

    Requiem for Methuselah counts as having a door handle in a 23rd Century human dwelling.
     
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    URL links are fine. It's using the IMG tags and having the picture show on our site that makes for a problem.
     
  17. Mutai Sho-Rin

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    Glad to have that clarified. Sorry about the mistake, CC. Now I know the difference.
     
  18. CorporalCaptain

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    Not a problem. Thanks Mutai Sho-Rin and T'Bonz for clarifying, and so promptly. :techman:

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    There are actually quite a lot of door handles in TOS. As has been mentioned by GSchnitzer, most of them appear in "old buildings" as it were, or perhaps more specifically and inclusively, buildings for whatever real-world or in-universe reason are built according to contemporary or old Earth architecture. I've added three more episodes to my part of the list, now bringing it to 13 episodes:

    Miri - http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x08hd/mirihd315.jpg

    The Menagerie, Part II - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x12/themanagerie2_115.jpg

    The Squire of Gothos - http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x17hd/thesquireofgothoshd105.jpg

    Tomorrow Is Yesterday - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x19/Tomorrow_is_Yesterday_167.JPG

    The Return of the Archons - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x21/thereturnofarchons_028.jpg

    The City on the Edge of Forever - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x28/cityontheedge_655.jpg

    Catspaw - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x07/2x07_Catspaw174.jpg

    A Piece of the Action - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x17/pieceoftheaction_081.jpg

    Patterns of Force - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x21/PatternsOfForce0346.jpg

    Assignment: Earth - http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x26hd/assignmentearthhd0671.jpg

    Spectre of the Gun - http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x06hd/spectreofthegunhd0627.jpg

    Requiem for Methuselah - http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/3x19/requiemformethuselah_213.jpg

    All Our Yesterdays - http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x23hd/allouryesterdayshd0293.jpg

    The door handles in All Our Yesterdays also count as (presumably) strictly alien and not facsimiles of Earth structures (at least not in-universe ;)), with those in Miri, The Menagerie, Part II, and The Return of the Archons (assuming the one on Rigel VII was accurate, alien, and not just made up for the illusion; and unless Miri's planet was really a total copy of Earth).

    The above examples are not intended to be exhaustive, even within each episode, and at this point I'm posting it mainly just to supplement the examples that GSchnitzer gave just above, to move ever towards nerdy completeness. In that vein, the example in Requiem for Methuselah, a door handle in a 23rd Century human dwelling, is interesting enough that I've made a scaled down version of it available as an inline image for your convenience.

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    There are a lot of door handles in TOS! With GSchnitzer's four episodes and my 13, that brings the total to at least 17 episodes in which door handles occur. Although I'm not sure, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least one or two more.
     
  19. Therin of Andor

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    But how many are Starfleet?
     
  20. Forbin

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    Still all "forbidden" links here, Corporal. Trekcore probably doesn't want direct links to the JPGs.