Things I Hate About Star Trek

[Orac Zen]

Romulans and Klingons which swapped their racial characteristics sometime after TOS.

Agreed. The Romulans were turned into sneaks with identical uniforms and haircuts. The whole Klingon honour thing became boring beyond belief very, very quickly. And "It is a good day to die" even more so.

Actually, while I wouldn't use the word "hate" about anything (and certainly not about something as ultimately trivial as a TV show), the Klingons do come damned close.

Admirals that are dicks.

"Congratulations, you've been promoted to admiral. Report to medical for your lobotomy." Seems that's how it worked for pretty much all of 'em.

Q

Agreed. I don't "hate" Q but neither do I find him anything other than irritating (a handful of episodes excepted). I'm aware that's what the character was intended to be but IMHO they overdid it.

Hybrids. I hate the notion of Vulcan-human, Klingon-human, Cardassian-Bajoran, whatever-whatever hybrids. It's just so damned ridiculous.

Agreed. Spock is, basically, biologically impossible - regardless of how advanced Vulcan science may be.

Also with every hybrid it's always the human part that has the 'good' qualities and must struggle with the 'alien' side of their heritage. yes it's the Humans are superior fallacy again.

Agreed. Even if their existence is accepted, why are they always perpetually at war with themselves?

[*** snip ***] Yet, for what it's worth, I recall liking the Chase--even though it was basically ludicrous, it was belief-suspendable. :humanoid:

Same here. It was as good an attempt as possible to explain away the inexplicable.

Oh, and I hate that people hate Voyager so much.

I wouldn't use the word "hate" about such people. I do find the ones who crap on people who enjoy Voyager rather pathetic, though.

What about someone from any real part of England? I mean come on, we never got anything that wasn't Queen's English. Horrible. Reed was a complete mug, sorry to say so. And a geordie character would be great. Or mancunian. Perhaps even cockney. Anything real.

Good gracious!

Yeah, but then the Americans would need subtitles.

Voyager always seemed to stay pristine.

Thank UPN for that. It was their idea to turn Voy into some sort of TNG revisited, where everything was back to normal by the end of the episode. It was UPN that saw to it that the show didn't make full use of its premise and it was UPN that killed off any attempt to make that happen (for example, the much-maligned Braga wanted to do a year-long "year of hell"; UPN vetoed it).

 

[Warped9]

This is really a fault of the producers and writers, but I can't stand how everything and everyone in the Trek univers(s) is all nice and tidily tied together. Everyone knows everyone or is connected to them somehow. Yuch!

 

[NickInABox]

I think the best ship in the Star Trek universe *EVER* was the Equinox. THAT was a Starship. THAT was the closest thing to realism.

 

[Thor Damar]

I think the best ship in the Star Trek universe *EVER* was the Equinox. THAT was a Starship. THAT was the closest thing to realism.

Dude, this is the thread for things you dislike about trek. The 'what I love' thread is thataway<.

I'm in complete agreement with you about the Nova's, great little ships.

 

[Praetor]

I'm curious what about the Equinox makes it so special. Nice design, yes. But best. Ship. EVAR?

 

[Thor Damar]

I'm curious what about the Equinox makes it so special. Nice design, yes. But best. Ship. EVAR?

Is that addressed to myself or NickInABox? For me it's purely aesthetic, I'm shallow like that. (<I love this little guy btw!)

 

[Praetor]

Well, moreso to NickInABox, but, ya know, whoever.

 

[Thor Damar]

Well, moreso to NickInABox, but, ya know, whoever.

Whatever floats yer Warbird old bean!

 

[JustKate]

^ & ^^ Nobody - and I do mean nobody - is more shallow about ships than I am. Heck, the criteria I use to judge them isn't a lot different from what I use to pick out yet another pair of pretty shoes. (You are going to give me the benefit of the doubt and think I am exaggerating for the shear humor of it. But, alas, I am not. ) And even I can't see anything that makes it the "best ship EVER."

 

[Thor Damar]

^ & ^^ Nobody - and I do mean nobody - is more shallow about ships than I am. Heck, the criteria I use to judge them isn't a lot different from what I use to pick out yet another pair of pretty shoes. (You are going to give me the benefit of the doubt and think I am exaggerating for the shear humor of it. But, alas, I am not. ) And even I can't see anything that makes it the "best ship EVER."

I don't think anything is the best whatever of whatever. But I'm glad that Starfleet ships went darker and sleeker. In terms of a Starship it was too small and lacked the armaments to defend itself properly and I'm not even sure that it was necessarily even the best designed ship but I have a certain fondness for the class.

Of course hopefully NickInABox will be able to answer your questions and comments Praetor and JustKate.

 

[Praetor]

Well, moreso to NickInABox, but, ya know, whoever.

Whatever floats yer Warbird old bean!

You called me 'old bean.' +1

^ & ^^ Nobody - and I do mean nobody - is more shallow about ships than I am. Heck, the criteria I use to judge them isn't a lot different from what I use to pick out yet another pair of pretty shoes. (You are going to give me the benefit of the doubt and think I am exaggerating for the shear humor of it. But, alas, I am not. ) And even I can't see anything that makes it the "best ship EVER."

You know, this is something else I kind of hate about Trek: why can't we sometimes just appreciate something for looking cool? I know, I know, it needs substance and motivation and that ship didn't explode right.

But why can't a cool explosion or a funky warp effect be just that, and be liked? Example: 'Nemesis' was a crapfest but had some cool starfighting.

 

[Thor Damar]

Well, moreso to NickInABox, but, ya know, whoever.

Whatever floats yer Warbird old bean!

You called me 'old bean.' +1

^ & ^^ Nobody - and I do mean nobody - is more shallow about ships than I am. Heck, the criteria I use to judge them isn't a lot different from what I use to pick out yet another pair of pretty shoes. (You are going to give me the benefit of the doubt and think I am exaggerating for the shear humor of it. But, alas, I am not. ) And even I can't see anything that makes it the "best ship EVER."

You know, this is something else I kind of hate about Trek: why can't we sometimes just appreciate something for looking cool? I know, I know, it needs substance and motivation and that ship didn't explode right.

But why can't a cool explosion or a funky warp effect be just that, and be liked? Example: 'Nemesis' was a crapfest but had some cool starfighting.

Hear, Hear, QFT and all that!

(ye gods I'm turning into a true born Englishman with every post. Crikey!)

 

[Praetor]

Blimey, guvnah, might want to knock that off, eh wot?

 

[Thor Damar]

Blimey, guvnah, might want to knock that off, eh wot?

Nah, Mate, more than me jobs worth innit?

 

[JustKate]

You guys sound like those chimney sweeps in Mary Poppins...or, even better, Eliza Doolittle's dad in My Fair Lady. Hey, at least he (the actor, I mean) was actually English!

 

[Praetor]

I ain't done nothin' wrong by speaking to the gentleman. The rine in spine sties minely in the pline.

 

[Thor Damar]

I ain't done nothin' wrong by speaking to the gentleman. The rine in spine sties minely in the pline.

I say, good show that man!

(btw I'm actually from London!)

 

[Praetor]

I know.

I don't know why we Americans seem to think all the British sound the same, and sound like that.

Things I hate about Trek... oh yeah.

 

[Thor Damar]

I know.

I don't know why we Americans seem to think all the British sound the same, and sound like that.

Things I hate about Trek... oh yeah.

Wait, is that what we're supposed to be talking about?
Okay an easy one I think TATV; Worse finale ever! (C'mon somebody had to do the comic book guy voice at some point in the proceedings)

 

[Praetor]

I'll add a more generic 'hate': no payoff for foreshadowed plot plans. The Temporal Cold War comes to mind.