Aww, you're a sweet guy. Thank you very much, J.
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Things I Hate About Star Trek
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Aww, you're a sweet guy. Thank you very much, J.
(Believe me, you don't want to know how long it took me to compose that post.
I gathered as much, and as such I was a bit reluctant to boil it down to what I felt was in essence the crux of the importance of what you said, but ultimately I felt that I had to in order to get the point across.
Eek. Decaf, Hartzilla?
No one too many whinefests in the Trek XI forum and the Trek Lit forum.
I hate that there's no new series happening at the moment. 
Oh, and I hate that people hate Voyager so much.
I thought it would've been a little over the top to have made a bulleted list that just said "Voyager" over and over again, but if I were to make a list, one entry just couldn't do it justice.
The Horta (and Nimoy's meld) are always moving to me.
I am in general agreement, though, that aliens generally need to be persons. The makeup however is just atrocious sometimes! They should never rubber-over eyebrows, an important sign of emotions. I and my son just witnessed what I think is the WORST make-up ever: On TNG "Unification II,": the multi-armed, heavy keyboard player. Terrible. Plus all the new Romulans have FOREHEAD RIDGES, naturally, but not Spock, who is undercover on Romulus, but never got outed in spite of no ridges?? It is like a community theater make-up department, or something. Maybe Paramount got a good deal on rubber foreheads and had to use them.
plynch--I would point out an exception to your eyebrow rule, though. If you ever watch Garak, it's actually quite surprising how expressive he manages to be with those Cardassian eye ridges! 
(<--See? Even the emote agrees with me!)
(<--See? Even the emote agrees with me!)
I sort of take issue with how Trek aliens have to be extensions/embodied facets of human characteristics. I realize they're made that way, but then that sort of creation device sort of limits how one can explore that alien culture when it's story-appropriate. I think of the Ferengi and how they're expected (racism alert!) by almost all cultures to be greedy, opportunistic, and misogynistic. It took years and years just for Trek to say the Ferengi were more than those traits, and even then, Trek did so only very lightly (and somewhat poorly), and I'm convinced that it's this reliance on expected traits that made the Ferengi episodes so poor overall.
Ahem, now to get off my soapbox:
I really hate it when there's a lighthearted breather episode whose the conflict ultimately puts the entire ship/station/crew in mortal, mortal danger, possibly resulting in the mass explosion of the ship/station/crew (yes, crew). A breather episode is fine once in a while to break up tension and pace the season, but to have something comical turn into something hazardous pretty much defeats the purpose of a breather episode while at the same renders the action unbelievably ridiculous to begin with.
Ahem, now to get off my soapbox:
I really hate it when there's a lighthearted breather episode whose the conflict ultimately puts the entire ship/station/crew in mortal, mortal danger, possibly resulting in the mass explosion of the ship/station/crew (yes, crew). A breather episode is fine once in a while to break up tension and pace the season, but to have something comical turn into something hazardous pretty much defeats the purpose of a breather episode while at the same renders the action unbelievably ridiculous to begin with.
Like TNG's Rascals? The Ferengi taking the flagship of the Federation was ludicrous in and of itself...
Like TNG's Rascals? The Ferengi taking the flagship of the Federation was ludicrous in and of itself...
espeacially when their using Birds of Prey to do it.
And this right here is why I love the Cardassians so much. Of all of the Star Trek races, that's the closest we ever got to a fully-developed, complex, and varied society. Sometimes...at least as far as 24th-century society (23rd was better in this respect), I even feel like we got more diversity of character in the Cardassians than we did in humanity.
And the irony is that these guys were living under the most crushing totalitarian regime there was!
Like TNG's Rascals? The Ferengi taking the flagship of the Federation was ludicrous in and of itself...
espeacially when their using Birds of Prey to do it.
Oh geeze, that's one of the best examples right there
I look at an episode like that and compare it to, say, "Take Me Out to the Holosuite." I was so bloody relieved when it really was just a simple baseball episode. A lazier writer would've had the Pah-Wraiths hold the station for ransom, and the DS9 heroes winning the game by one nail-biting run.
All that's human is, apparently, American, like baseball, "an old human sport". True, in a sense, but keep your pars pro toto to yourselves. Sorry, guys. Doesn't work like that.
The only Brit who played a Brit was a total cliche that doesn't have anything to do with how people in the UK really are. You want to see real English people? Watch some Nick Love. This "stiff upper lip" thing is completely ridiculous, I've hardly ever met anyone like that. And I hate it hate it hate it hate it [/RANT].
Other than that, pretty much everything Temis said.
The only Brit who played a Brit was a total cliche that doesn't have anything to do with how people in the UK really are. You want to see real English people? Watch some Nick Love. This "stiff upper lip" thing is completely ridiculous, I've hardly ever met anyone like that. And I hate it hate it hate it hate it [/RANT].
Other than that, pretty much everything Temis said.
plynch--I would point out an exception to your eyebrow rule, though. If you ever watch Garak, it's actually quite surprising how expressive he manages to be with those Cardassian eye ridges!
That's what Cardassian ridges are for! Heck a Cardassian could look down on you with his NECK
. The raised eyeridge is a signature Cardassian expression along with the Odo type grunt. (I don't really like the Cardie simile I must admit)
Also I completely second everything that CommanderRaytas said above. As much as I like Bashir and Reed they were too stereotypical (and posh) for my liking.
Thanks. It really drives me up the wall.
You would think that Reed would get down and dirty more often considering the role of his job, but yeah, he was too prim and proper.
Also: did they really have to turn him into a secret agent? I mean, really now. They might as well just put a teapot station on the weapons desk.
Indeed my good chum! It can become quite vexing to say the lest!
(see, we would all sound like complete and utter muppets if we actually talked like that)
I can't wait to see the first geordie Starfleet captain!
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