^ Just between you and me...so do I. Keep it to yourself, though.
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Things I Hate About Star Trek
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My biggest one has always been humanoids and human looking aliens being everywhere!
The Tholian in Enterprise, the Gorn..the Ferengi....should have seen more like them! Most of what we got was humans with different colored foreheads.
I get that sometimes the point was to highlight the cultural differences not the physical ones but jesus...the odds of every alien we come across being humanoid...and looking exactly like us?
1. The baseball and other American centered stories, the fact that everyone and their mother seemed to be from the USA if they were from Earth post-TOS, with the exception of Picard. I'd also include fans using the tied American cliches of "liberal" and "conservative" to describe an show 400 years into the future where most of our current economic debates don't even apply(imagine trying to apply 17th century politics to the present day..)...the USA is 4% of the world population, and Earth is only one of 150 or so Federation worlds...so stop seeing it through the prisim of one tiny patch of Earth in the 21st century...expand your minds a bit..jesus...
Did we see a single (actual) African character? or South American?
2. The shows extreme prudishness with sex, that includes their aversion to gay characters, the Risa DS9 story which was supposed to show a very sexually liberated world but ended up showing scenes that were very diluted.
3. Overly hysterical fans. I don't mean overly enthusiastic about the show (though I do think it's possible to go overboard) I mean fans who are catty with each other, too oversensitive. I made the mistake of venturing onto the new movie forum here and said I didn't like the ship design and thought the new bridge set looked like something out of a sci fi parody show, but that I'd watch the movie anyway and it was just the new ship design I didn't like....I had people leaping to the conclusion I was trashing the entire movie without knowing anything about it..some people seem to have a prisim though which they see people/things (same people who think if your critical of one political leaders policies you hate him/her overall)
4. The lazy re-use of the same ship models
Federation ships
Klingon Ships
The two coolest looking designs the Neg'var and the Attack Cruiser we almost never got to see in action...all we got were the BOPs which are more than 100 years old...and to add insult to injury the D was taken down by one...
5. The cartoonish/retarded (in Voyager) and downright racist (in TNG) Star Trek interpritaion of Irish people...if it wasn't for O'Brian balancing things out...
6. Stupid Holodeck stories. I'm thinking in particular of that Voyager Nazi story..
7. Their off duty lives look unbeleivably boring. In fact it's rare you see them out of uniform...I remember the commentary on the Generatins DVD saying 10 forward should have looked that crowded and busy/happy all the time, they were right.
The Tholian in Enterprise, the Gorn..the Ferengi....should have seen more like them! Most of what we got was humans with different colored foreheads.
I get that sometimes the point was to highlight the cultural differences not the physical ones but jesus...the odds of every alien we come across being humanoid...and looking exactly like us?
1. The baseball and other American centered stories, the fact that everyone and their mother seemed to be from the USA if they were from Earth post-TOS, with the exception of Picard. I'd also include fans using the tied American cliches of "liberal" and "conservative" to describe an show 400 years into the future where most of our current economic debates don't even apply(imagine trying to apply 17th century politics to the present day..)...the USA is 4% of the world population, and Earth is only one of 150 or so Federation worlds...so stop seeing it through the prisim of one tiny patch of Earth in the 21st century...expand your minds a bit..jesus...
Did we see a single (actual) African character? or South American?
2. The shows extreme prudishness with sex, that includes their aversion to gay characters, the Risa DS9 story which was supposed to show a very sexually liberated world but ended up showing scenes that were very diluted.
3. Overly hysterical fans. I don't mean overly enthusiastic about the show (though I do think it's possible to go overboard) I mean fans who are catty with each other, too oversensitive. I made the mistake of venturing onto the new movie forum here and said I didn't like the ship design and thought the new bridge set looked like something out of a sci fi parody show, but that I'd watch the movie anyway and it was just the new ship design I didn't like....I had people leaping to the conclusion I was trashing the entire movie without knowing anything about it..some people seem to have a prisim though which they see people/things (same people who think if your critical of one political leaders policies you hate him/her overall)
4. The lazy re-use of the same ship models
Federation ships
- Why were those crappy little Miranda things still buzzing around (renamed as if they're supposed to be a diffrent class...) in Picard and Siskos time?
- The Pegasus was meant to be an experimental ship and they were going to have a new model built but instead they used that crappy Oberth class model...were meant to believe a highly experimental ship carrying a deeply classified prototype device is a totally defenseless science scout thing?
- Excelsior class...everywhere.....
Klingon Ships
The two coolest looking designs the Neg'var and the Attack Cruiser we almost never got to see in action...all we got were the BOPs which are more than 100 years old...and to add insult to injury the D was taken down by one...
5. The cartoonish/retarded (in Voyager) and downright racist (in TNG) Star Trek interpritaion of Irish people...if it wasn't for O'Brian balancing things out...
6. Stupid Holodeck stories. I'm thinking in particular of that Voyager Nazi story..
7. Their off duty lives look unbeleivably boring. In fact it's rare you see them out of uniform...I remember the commentary on the Generatins DVD saying 10 forward should have looked that crowded and busy/happy all the time, they were right.
With a self sealing stembolt of course!
And I officially second PhoenixIreland's critique esp regarding the ship models. Would it have killed to have more than 2-3 types of ships for each nation?
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Ah yes, the Laughing Romulan. (That would make a great name for a pub)
You mean genetically engineered Bashir? I though it was a bit sudden but it did lead to some interesting storylines and a chance to name check the Khan and explained Bashir's overt arrogance. (aside from the fact that he's British of course
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You mean genetically engineered Bashir? I though it was a bit sudden but it did lead to some interesting storylines and a chance to name check the Khan and explained Bashir's overt arrogance. (aside from the fact that he's British of course
I think it struck me the way it did because DS9 always seemed to know were it was going and that just seemed like a cheat.
That does bring up something that bothers me about Trek - and that is when something important is brought up about a long-time character simply to faciliate the plot for one episode. I'm not sure the Bashir example qualifies (although it is annoying for the reason you state, T-ravis), but there are lots of other ones: Chapel suddenly has a fiance; we (and Riker) suddenly find out that Troi was genetically bonded; Spock has an extra inner eyelid or whatever it was that saved him from the light that killed those cosmic Jello creatures; characters having a hobby that is important to the plot of one episode but we never hear of it again after that episode...
I hate that stuff. When you have to modify the characters in order to fit the plot instead of the other way around, that is never a good sign.
I hate that stuff. When you have to modify the characters in order to fit the plot instead of the other way around, that is never a good sign.
Indubitably, old chum.
You're going to offer him a spot of tea and some crumpets any moment, I can tell.
Hey, Tea is one of the finest beverages known to Humans, Romulans and Cardassians. The three most civilised peoples in the galaxy
.(not like those Klingons with their coffee, barbarians!)
^ I love tea - I drink it all the time, hot and iced. I brew it in a pot and everything, just like a civilized person. (My mother always told me I'd "learn to" like coffee, but so far the lessons haven't sunk in, and I'm thinking they probably aren't going to.)
But there's more to going all Britishy than tea, "old chum."
But there's more to going all Britishy than tea, "old chum."
^ I love tea - I drink it all the time, hot and iced. I brew it in a pot and everything, just like a civilized person. (My mother always told me I'd "learn to" like coffee, but so far the lessons haven't sunk in, and I'm thinking they probably aren't going to.)
But there's more to going all Britishy than tea, "old chum."
I quite agree, M'lady (especially regarding coffee, dreadful stuff). Going Britishy involves a certain manner of speech, action and thought. Understatement is key of course as is a superb diction and a fare with the written language.
The bad teeth are optional.
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