They would have never made it without Data

[shatastrophic]

Data saved the Day on many episodes, The Naked Now, We'll Always Have Paris, Loud as a Whisper, Evolution, and even in the BOBW. Riker got the credit for that though. All of that was in the first seasons. What do you think of playing the "Data Card". I wonder if Bruce Maddox got it right before Data died in Nemesis.

 

[K-Star]

Well Data is my favorite character, so I love all the episodes that he plays a major part in and would've loved to see more of him in the series and movies.

 

[Spider]

Well, Data started out for me as one of the big failures and horrible aspects of TNG. He ended up being one of my favorite characters along side Riker.

In fact, I didn't like most of them in the beginning, but somewhere in the midst of season two and onwards, I began to just love this crew. I love Data in the TV shows, not so much in the movies. But then, I didn't care for the movies, so you can discount my opinion there.

And I stand on record as being a big fan of Masks. :thumbsup:

 

[sbk1234]

Mass producing Datas would be an interesting and useful premise, if they still allowed each android to maintain its own personal freedom.

 

[K-Star]

LOL I wonder how Data would react if he came across an exact replica of himself, and I ain't talkin about Lore or B4 or another prototype... I mean EXACT. Same personality and everything.

 

[Trekker4747]

There were far too many cases in the series where Data's simply being an android saved the day.

The entirity of STARFLEET would've fallen to that alien race with the "game" in "The Game" were it not for the fact Data was immune to it, in addition to Wesley's efforts and resistance to the game.

I hate deus ex machnia like that because the entire idea of the universe and our crew being safe relys on the simple fact "because Data is an android."

But I guess we should be thankful it only happened a few times, as opposed to the deus ex in Voyager that was Borg Nanoprobes and the Main Deflector.

 

[Therin of Andor]

shatastrophic said:
I wonder if Bruce Maddox got it right before Data died in Nemesis.

Not canonical, of course, but check out the novel, "Immortal Coil" by Jeff Lang. It features a whodunnit as to Maddox's android he has built, plus cameos by the first three Soong-type android prototypes mentioned by Juliana Tainer, in TNG's "Inheritance".

After "Nemesis" coincidentally introduced B-4, I've taken to calling the first three B-1, B-2 and B-3.

The novel is a fanfest: it manages to cameo or reference every android, robot and AI from TOS and TNG. Which causes some non-TOS fans to get angry - but knowledge of TOS is not essential. The novel also acknowledges th existence of "The Questor Tapes".

 

[BriGuy]

Yup, there were many times our crew was saved because of Data, and because he was an android, and what he could do, how he was different, etc. Very convenient. Other ships without such a crew member wouldn't have a prayer.

So, Data can save them over and over, but Wesley does it and people hate him for it.

 

[K-Star]

Therin of Andor said:

shatastrophic said:
I wonder if Bruce Maddox got it right before Data died in Nemesis.

Not canonical, of course, but check out the novel, "Immortal Coil" by Jeff Lang. It features a whodunnit as to Maddox's android he has built, plus cameos by the first three Soong-type android prototypes mentioned by Juliana Tainer, in TNG's "Inheritance".

After "Nemesis" coincidentally introduced B-4, I've taken to calling the first three B-1, B-2 and B-3.

The novel is a fanfest: it manages to cameo or reference every android, robot and AI from TOS and TNG. Which causes some non-TOS fans to get angry - but knowledge of TOS is not essential. The novel also acknowledges th existence of "The Questor Tapes".

Oh yes, that book was pure AWESOME even though I've never watched an episode of TOS. It's the only Star Trek novel I've read and I think it's even better than Harry Potter (highest praise I can give a book)!

 

[STIntergalactic]

While not to quite the same extreme, I think the TOS crew got off lucky a few times cause Spock (as a vulcan) was immune to whatever. Although, I admit that I can't think of an example off the top of my head. But I'm sure the same thing happened with Phlox and T'pol on ENT. And the Doc on VOY. I even remember having a discussion with my dad that it is essential, if you are writing a Trek show, that you have at least one crew person who is significantly different enough to leave yourself an "out" to a crazy plot.

 

[Vic Sixx]

I always thought Picard was way to reliant on Data, he did several different jobs, science off., ops officer, nav. and he never slept or never had to. It was always always hard for me to believe how good they said Picard was, without Data, he'd have been killed hundreds of times over. How did he ever manage to command a ship without him? Since his first ship was lost, I guess he didn't.

 

[Maniarek]

Data was just great on TNG. There's never going to be another character like him on Trek ever again I think. Odo was not nearly as interesting.

The emotion chip was a pretty bad idea in Generations, ruined the legitimacy of his character.