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These Haunted Seas and Myriad Universes

William Leisner said:
Babaganoosh said:
KRAD said:
It's too soon for me to talk about my MU contribution, but you can rest assured that it'll probably suck.

Uh, be great! I meant it'll be great! Honest!

These aren't mirror universe stories, are they?
No, these are "What if...?" stories, showing alternate histories seperate from the Mirror U.

Oh, *that*. About bloody time! I thought that had been long since abandoned. I'm glad it wasn't. I will definitely be picking this one up. :bolian:
 
I like the titles of the Myriad Universe books.

I don't like the cover. I get the theme, but I don't see the point in populating the cover with people who aren't going to be in the books. For one thing, Sisko is recognizable enough that prospective purchases could buy this with the impression that he plays a role within.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
And I still find it difficult to believe that there wasn't room to fit all four books in at once, so that it could just be called Mission Gamma.
The fact that you don't find it difficult to believe don't make it so. :) Those two novels are as long in terms of word count than the four novels and one novella that made up Twist of Faith, and Cathedral was also fairly long (it only seemed short by comparison to the first two).
 
Trent Roman said:
I don't like the cover. I get the theme, but I don't see the point in populating the cover with people who aren't going to be in the books. For one thing, Sisko is recognizable enough that prospective purchases could buy this with the impression that he plays a role within.
The purpose of the cover is the show how their absences still affect those still around. Sisko: Bajor's steps to joining the Federation as well as his influence with the remaining crew. Winn: The fall out of her actions in the final arc on Bajor. Ziyal: Her relationship with Kira and how it still influences her. Jadzia: Ezri and Bashir. Dukat: Macet. Thriss: Shar. Ruriko: Prynn and Vaughn.
 
I don't really care for the cover. Just looking at the cover, I couldn't tell who three of the people pictured are supposed to be.

Oh well. Not buying it anyway, so I'll zip it.
 
Emh said:
The purpose of the cover is the show how their absences still affect those still around. Sisko: Bajor's steps to joining the Federation as well as his influence with the remaining crew. Winn: The fall out of her actions in the final arc on Bajor. Ziyal: Her relationship with Kira and how it still influences her. Jadzia: Ezri and Bashir. Dukat: Macet. Thriss: Shar. Ruriko: Prynn and Vaughn.

I fully understand the purpose. I just find it too clever by half, and I generally don't like sticking people on the cover who aren't in the book. One can spout whatever platitudes about not judging a book by the cover one wishes, but as a reader, I know I expect to find whoever is pictured there to be featured on the printed page as well.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
I must agree with that. I also think putting characters on the cover who are not in the book is very misleading.

I also think it is very difficult to recognize most of these people.

At first glance, it is a beautiful cover but not a good one, meaning serving its purpose.
 
The look is really good, and I understand what the idea is behind it. But, from the perspective of someone who is who is unaware of the Relaunch it would be rather confusing. Unless it discusses how these people aren't actually part of the story on the back, then I could see it working.
 
Therin of Andor said:
lvsxy808 said:
isn't that Talas from ENT that they're using for an image of Thriss?

Yep, with TOS antennae, to match Shar.

While I don't see that it's the kind of thing that needs explaining (just like I don't need non-bumpy Klingons and improved Tellarites explaining), if we must explain the difference in Andorian antennae, it could just be normal ethnic variations within the species.

Which means there's no need to assume that Shar and Thriss have to be from the same ethnic sub-division, and to change the image to match Shar's antennae. If the reason was really just so that it wasn't so obviously a pic of Talas, then fair enough, but the say it was done to match Shar doesn't seem right or necessary to me.
 
lvsxy808 said:
to say it was done to match Shar doesn't seem right or necessary to me.

Well pardon me! I thought it was an interesting observation, especially since if I didn't mention it someone was bound to ask me. (And of couse, without any Photoshopping, it's simply a still of Talas, and would cause confusion.)

What I find interesting with all the licensed novels and comics is that none of them have ever shown a mixing of Andorian antennae types, so perhaps the individual differences are so common that no one ever mentions them but, in canonical ST, antennae types always stick together. eg. We've never seen TOS Andorians in the same frame of a comic as TMP Andorians, the TMP newspaper strip only featured TMP Andorians, and we've never seen a TNG Andorian drawn with ENT antennae, etc.

Or maybe all Andorians have identical antennae, and we are supposed to mentally edit them to look like Shran?

I have no problem with variations; just look at the many antennae variations in Earth's insects. Mind you, if four differently-antennaed Andorians were in one bondgroup, the offspring's antennae would be like a lottery.

If the tie-ins take a subtle lead from canonical ST, then antennae types do tend stick together, so as Shar has TOS antennae, it's likely (but not compulsory) that his zhavey and bondmates will be similar.

The last time a comic book did a Trill story, it chose to draw bumpy-headed TNG Trills with spots, and cast shadows across the forehead bumps.
 
Therin of Andor said:
lvsxy808 said:
to say it was done to match Shar doesn't seem right or necessary to me.

Well pardon me! I thought it was an interesting observation, especially since if I didn't mention it someone was bound to ask me. (And of couse, without any Photoshopping, it's simply a still of Talas, and would cause confusion.)
Sorry, i didn't mean it come across as an attack on you. My apologies if it did.

Or maybe all Andorians have identical antennae, and we are supposed to mentally edit them to look like Shran?
Yeah, that's what I'd go for.
 
I find myself agreeing with a lot of the posters. The cover itself is inarguably beautiful, but it's entirely misleading and frankly I just don't get the point of doing it. The message is that these people are still affecting everyone's lives? ...So what? That theme wasn't any more present in these books than any of the other Relaunch novels, to my recollection.
 
The title is "These Haunted Seas", so ghostly images of the dearly departed seems totally logical to me. Not to mention that fans have been asking for ages what the new characters (ie. Ruriko, Thriss) looked like - and we already got to see several still-living DS9 characters on the original "Mission: Gamma" covers.
 
Therin of Andor said:
The title is "These Haunted Seas", so ghostly images of the dearly departed seems totally logical to me.

Logical, in that respect, yes. But I agree that the images are bad for the previously stated reasons. In that regard so is the new title, since nothing particularly ghostly or haunting really happens in either of those two books.
 
LightningStorm said:
Therin of Andor said:
The title is "These Haunted Seas", so ghostly images of the dearly departed seems totally logical to me.

Logical, in that respect, yes. But I agree that the images are bad for the previously stated reasons. In that regard so is the new title, since nothing particularly ghostly or haunting really happens in either of those two books.

Maybe whoever is responsible for the cover art, also picked the cover blurbs for the "Janus Gate" novels? :lol:
 
I've always just pictured every Andorian with ENT antanae since it came out. But now that I think about it, I do kinda like the idea of Andorians simply multiple types of antenae.
 
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