Theory: Picard and Seven were or still are in a romantic relationship??
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Someone already pointed it out.
The judgmental negativity in discussions like this is appalling.
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No, because it has nothing to do with the discussion.
It is certainly relevant to the current discussion.
Though I'm of the camp that feels Ageism is really not acceptable now-a-days.
My wife is considerably younger.
She talks about "Britney and Justin" like they were her best friends from high school.
She talks about "Britney and Justin" like they were her best friends from high school.
Yes, and none of that mitigates the power differential between the 30-year-old man and the 19-year-olds barely out of high school.
It's been said already, and, yeah, sorry, but it's kind of gross. I don't think it's the same as a 30-year-old being with a 19-year-old, and she was 30 when they met. But when a 68-year-old hooks up with a 30-year-old -- when the age gap is literally 126% of the younger person's lifespan -- that raises some serious red flags for me. I'm not gonna jump to conclusions, because a 30-year-old has much more life experience than a 20-year-old or whatever, but I seriously wonder how equal their relationship can really be.
Yes, how terrible it is when people point out that major age differences can be a sign of a power differential in a relationship which can be harmful or abusive. It's not like there's ages and ages of literature about how these sorts of age gaps between men and women are common in patriarchal cultures that treat women as men's property or anything.
... Is the fact you describe your wife as "considerably younger" supposed to prove something?
(And before someone starts getting their knickers in a twist, I'm not accusing Sir Patrick or anyone else of anything. But a major age gap in a relationship is a big red flag. There are couples for whom it is not an issue, but it can also be a big indicator that the relationship is unequal and/or harmful or abusive. And since Jean-Luc Picard is a fictional character who is supposed to be ethical, I would hope that the series would depict this fictional character as not engaging in deeply problematic life choices.)
We had our adolescences in different decades.
We were raised listening to different music, watching different movies and experiencing different news.
Seven didn't have an Adolescence or a formative youth that shaped her world view.
If Seven and Picard were the same age, they still wouldn't relate because her inhuman upbringing was very Alien to Jean-Lucs, even though they were both Borg.
... Yeah, none of that address the question of whether or not a relationship is unequal and subsequently abusive.
I mean, all you're suggesting here is that in addition to Picard having more power because of his greater age, Picard also has more power because he has greater emotional maturity than a victim of profound trauma.
Which, I don't know if I agree that Seven would still be so profoundly traumatized by her time with the Borg after over twenty years amongst Federates, but if we accept that as a proposition, it does absolutely nothing to help Picard not seem like a abusive old creep.
No, it’s not. If Kevin Spacey ever gets another acting job, do you think he’ll play a character who sexually abuses young boys, because he did that in real life?
Please separate the real person from the fictional person. One has nothing to do with the other. Patrick Stewart’s personal life isn’t the topic of this discussion. The topic of this discussion is someone’s prepubescent fantasy that an 80+ year old fictional character had some sexual relationship with a 20-something fictional character by taking scenes in a trailer completely out of context.
I don't think i was talking about abuse.
Just about how much eye rolling they both exhibit to tolerate the other one's interests.
Seven was not traumatized.
Her "current" personality was edited by the Borg to keep on trucking, otherwise when she "woke up" in Voyager season 4, she would have been an 8 year old screaming for her mommy.
Just about how much eye rolling they both exhibit to tolerate the other one's interests.
Seven was not traumatized.
Her "current" personality was edited by the Borg to keep on trucking, otherwise when she "woke up" in Voyager season 4, she would have been an 8 year old screaming for her mommy.
She tried to go back to the Borg.
Up until S7, she had a cortical limiter. She wasn't capable of feeling strong emotions until The Doctor removed it in "Endgame".
I think it's hugely unlikely that Picard and Seven ever hooked up. If they did, Seven wouldn't be all smiles in the trailer. At best, she'd only be cordial. Picard looks like he's been a loner, except for his dog. So he probably met Seven when he was an Admiral.
I'd say her time on VOY was her "adolescence". I was 18 when the fourth season of VOY aired, and I picked up on it immediately. Her upbringing was Borg, Janeway was trying to force her to be another way, then Seven did change but she changed in a direction that Janeway didn't like and they kept butting heads. If that's not adolescence, I don't know what is.
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In Picard, Seven is closer to Jeri Ryan's age: 51.
Yes, but the whole premise of this thread was about the age difference between the two, not about how old Seven is now.
An immigrant, trying to cohabit with intractable racists?
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The cortical limiter didn't stop Anika from feeling emotions, it chose when to kill her if her emotions got too strong.
Was the Doctor seeing a difference between orgasms and emotions like love, being a trigger for the limiter kill switch?
Most people can have sex without feeling love or an orgasm.
Otherwise I can't see why she couldn't have had bad sex with people she didn't have any strong feelings for, whenever, to keep her pipes unclogged?
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