Theory for TOS Enterprise and Disco Enterprise differences

[fireproof78]

sounds awfully close to that nonsensical Midnight's Edge conspiracy theory bullshit

Everyone likes having a conspiracy. Otherwise, who would we hate?

 

[Tuskin38]

Actually yes and no..

You see everyone has been looking at this all wrong. It makes sense this way..

1. TOS Enterprise exists in the Original Timeline. Which CBS owns.
2. KELVIN Enterprise is the alternate universe era owned in part from Bad Robot and Paramount.
3. PRIME Enterprise or STD/DISCO is the TOS knock off universe which is where the Spock in The Kelvin Movies came from. Not Original Spock, but Prime universe Spock owned by Paramount.
Paramount bad robot are producing STD/DISCO for CBS. Merchandise can only be licensed and monitized by CBS if 25% toneally different. So what Star Trek Discovery is ultimately a clever ruse, it is not Original Trek, it is Prime trek which is the universe that preceded Kelvin, and also the new Picard show will also be set in Prime universe not the Original. CBS has new trek, and is sitting on Old Trek, basically because merchandise licensing reasons and to control Paramount since the Kelvin line was cancelled.

Ultimately, it may be prime universe but its not the Original. So when we speak about such things we should, look at it from a 3 universe perspective. The original timeline is not being put forward here. So too are the ships. They could come back to it, if they wanted to. But with Kurtzman and Bad robot. Expect a whole new universe heavily influenced by the original, but really more in common with the Kelvin based on many shared aspects.

Everything you said is wrong.

 

[fireproof78]

Everything you said is wrong.

Save this for later, my friend

 

[WarpFactorZ]

I'm getting tired of these closed-minded arguments that ignore the showrunners' statements on Discovery. It is the Prime universe, PERIOD. Why? Because they said so. Arguing that visual inconsistencies imply an alternate timeline is simply puerile. Heck, the bridge of Discovery changed between season 1 and season 2 IN THE MIDDLE OF A SCENE! Clearly S1 and S2 are in different timelines.

 

[Tuskin38]

Save this for later, my friend

I should use one of Luke from TLJ

 

[fireproof78]

Clearly S1 and S2 are in different timelines.

I should use one of Luke from TLJ

I have it somewhere as well.

Edit: Found it:

 

[PiotrB]

Paramount bad robot are producing STD/DISCO for CBS.

There is imdb.com, so you can easily verify such nonsense:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co

Production Companies

• CBS Television Studios
• Living Dead Guy Productions
• Roddenberry Entertainment
• Secret Hideout

 

[Hythlodeus]

There is imdb.com, so you can easily verify such nonsense:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co

but those are facts, and facts don't matter

 

[Tuskin38]

There is imdb.com, so you can easily verify such nonsense:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co

Plus I’m pretty sure the end credits have the production companies as well

 

[Alan Roi]

My theory is that TOS was made in the 1960s and Discovery is made today. That's why they look different.

 

[Succubint]

My theory is that TOS was made in the 1960s and Discovery is made today. That's why they look different.

OMG, that's heresy!

 

[Alan Roi]

Everyone likes having a conspiracy. Otherwise, who would we hate?

"Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation."

Just saying.

 

[Ithekro]

Then, of course, there's this speculation interpreting the latest episode...
(In brief: Pike shows signs of being a technological old-schooler, and he exerts significant influence over not just the Enterprise but the whole fleet once he's promoted to Fleet Captain, thus heralding the TOS look)

Basically just a bit of implicit re-retconning to help the show correct some problems it shouldn't have caused in the first place, but it's plausible enough!...

That is actually potentially very clever.

 

[fireproof78]

My theory is that TOS was made in the 1960s and Discovery is made today. That's why they look different.

 

[Korusan]

At the end of the day it's a series of stories and not a documentary, for better or worse. TNG was tongue in cheek with the old bridge, and DS9 used it brilliantly to tell its own effects-enhanced stories. Enterprise may have done a disservice with staying too close to the classic since it kind of reinforced this "need" for everything to look 100% consistent. But let's not forget the Enterprise A between IV/V/VI, which was completely at the whim of budgets and what was available.

 

[DaveyNY]

Just a teeny-weeny nit-pick...

CBS OWNS IT ALL.

Everyone else is considered a Licensee, including Paramount at this point.

 

[Yistaan]

Starfleet ships are skinnable like a Windows theme, obviously. And Discovery already provided us our answer on why they don't use holograms on the TOS Enterprise.

And Starfleet is going to find out the hard way how foolish it is to have high resolution tactical data on clear display on the bridge, where the Klingons can see that the moment they hail a Federation captain on their viewscreen...

All sorts of useful information, like the shield modulation frequency, the amount of torpedoes the Starfleet ship has, and their percentage of life support remaining! I heard these displays even have a ship's prefix code to see too. And all out for Starfleet's enemies to read.

Kirk, being the cunning warrior that he is, immediately ordered these hi-res tactical data to be replaced with low resolution neon blob screensavers most of the time, and even looking like low resolution neon blobs when tactical info actually is displayed, thwarting any enemy's attempt to read crucial Enterprise info from a viewscreen chat.

 

[Ithekro]

So it takes about 115 year for holographic communications be be up to the Pike Standard of Excellence.

 

[Lord Garth]

So it takes about 115 year for holographic communications be be up to the Pike Standard of Excellence.

I still treat the holocommunicators like their version of 3-D movies. Time and again, they'd try to introduce it and, time and again, it wouldn't take off. Looks like it finally stuck after Avatar. But, leading up that, it was constant on-again-off-again.

Hell. Even on DS9. We never see the holocommunicator again after the fifth season. People who bring up the holocommunicator being treated like new tend to not bring up this other part of the equation.

 

[fireproof78]

So it takes about 115 year for holographic communications be be up to the Pike Standard of Excellence.

The Pike is the Starfleet accepted measure of communication quality.