It wouldn't necessarily be better in other ways, but it probably WOULD be a better way of putting the X-Men in the MCU. That's all.
The X-Men Cinematic Universe (General Discussion)
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^ That doesn't answer the question.
So, crazy news today.
-Verbinski is out on Gambit.
-Gambit gets pushed back 4 months to June 7, 2019.
-Deadpool 2 gets brought foward to May 18 this year, just 2 weeks after Avengers and one week before Solo.
-New Mutants gets delayed 10 months, to February 22, 2019.
That huge 10 month delay is rarely a good sign for a film thats basically already completed.
A distinct possibility that they're dumping a stinker on Disney's lap. Which is too bad, because I really wanted New Mutants to be good.
-Verbinski is out on Gambit.
-Gambit gets pushed back 4 months to June 7, 2019.
-Deadpool 2 gets brought foward to May 18 this year, just 2 weeks after Avengers and one week before Solo.
-New Mutants gets delayed 10 months, to February 22, 2019.
That huge 10 month delay is rarely a good sign for a film thats basically already completed.
A distinct possibility that they're dumping a stinker on Disney's lap. Which is too bad, because I really wanted New Mutants to be good.
Well the continuity even just WITHIN the xmen is spotty. And even with the "new" old characters like Mystique, I am not sure if the actors want to stick with it long term. It might be better to start fresh, and then Amen can be the Phase 5 of Marvel Movies.
I think it works like Spiderman. Even if Sony did NOT do such a blatant cash grab in trying to do Amazing Spider-Man, and Raimi and Maguire continued with 4 and 5 ... I think even they would have been willing to retire, and the Tom Holland reboot would have been even more embraced
Because it's been running on fumes for years now after DOFP gave it a booster shot...which turned out to be temporary as Apocalypse proved.
And it isn't even that continuous, as FC isn't 100% compatible with the original movies anyways.
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It's not so much that they want to stop Fox making films, it's that the Fox X-Men films are incompatible with the MCU. There would have to be a huge retcon to pul that off and it will be easier (and probably better) to start again.
And no-one wants to see Fox have another run at the FF...
It wouldn't necessarily be better in other ways, but it probably WOULD be a better way of putting the X-Men in the MCU. That's all.
Yes it does.
I was speaking explicitly about how to put the X-Men into the MCU and it looks to me that a fresh start (like Spiderman) would be viewed as a better way of doing it than a massive fudge or retcon.
It has nothing to do with the relative strength or weakness of the Fox X-Verse.
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God Loves, Man Kills.
Because it's run its course? Because it's all been done? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the X-Men movie universe and will continue to see the movies, but like the Star Wars EU (which I also loved), it's stories have been told and it's time for a fresh start.
It hasn't run its course, though; there are still more stories to be told in the XMCU as it currently exists.
I don't quite know what to make of New Mutants being delayed, but there's a part of me that can't help but wonder if FOX pushed the film back to make it harder for Disney to just end the X-Men franchise if the film is successful.
The question I asked is why Disney creating an MCU X-Men franchise would be better than Disney just letting the XMCU continue as it is.
Rumor Mill has it that the movie tested well, but not great and that the studio wants to beef up the horror elements.
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/11/the-new-mutants-movie-release-date-delay-2019-scary/
Because the FoX-Men have run their course. Starting over means we'll be able to see how the X-Men would deal with being in a world where there are non-mutant Superbeings and wondering how they can be treated better like the Avengers are.
Repeatedly saying this isn't going to make it any less untrue.
Repeatedly saying that it isn't true isn't going to make it any less true than it is either.
It's not true. Saying the X-Men movies have run their course is a lie. There are infinite directions it can still go , with the established actors and characters or with new ones.
If it ran its course and had no more to say at Fox, then they would have nothing to say at Disney as well. Which is preposterous on both counts, as both studios can easily tell many varied and different stories if they wanted. Look at the source material, they haven't scratched the surface yet at Fox. And all of the new movies and shows coming out still and in development prove this.
They keep doing the same repetitive shit with Magneto and Mystique over and over again. They've recycled and tweeked the timeline to the point (yes, they have) to the point where it's become bloated and convoluted. Add to this the fact that their most recognizable face for their most popular character has decided to call it a career with the character. As Peggy Carter once said, "sometimes it's better to just start over".
I have a bad feeling about this.
Why would Disney want to get the rights back to one of their last remaining major IP's and not add it to the MCU ?
If the Fox movies were either critically loved OR hugely successful with the fans and general public, there might be some consideration of keeping them going. Sadly, they're patchy quality wise, not exactly setting the box-office alight and the biggest X-Men fans I know hate them.
With hindsight DOFP might have given them a chance to reset the X-Men into the MCU but that wasn't an option then, and with Jackman gone they've not even got the incentive of the franchises major star to tempt them.
Then why have they been doing the same stories for 17 years? They could have beaten MCU to the punch with a Starjammers movie years ago before GOTG but they did nothing.
For Disney, I think it's not about how good or bad for the X-Men universe, but how much the X-Men can add to the Marvel MCU which is their crown jewel. Frankly, I don't think how well the X-Men Cinematic Universe does factors into their thinking at all, I think they mostly care about what they can bring to the MCU.
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