Agree.
The Worst Fan Film Award Goes To...
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Agree.
Man, I hate being a thread killer.
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This thread was dead the minute we all realized the OP was a whinging troll.
This thread was dead the minute we all realized the OP was a whinging troll.
i'm not a troll i'm entitled to my opinions thanks
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doubleohfive
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Yes, you are. You're also entitled to be an ass about it, which after reading your comments in this thread, I don't think anyone will dispute, you also are.
No one is saying you can't do either. But if you're going to do so, be ready to be called out for it.
As a complete aside:
I did not know about your fan film map, Barb, and it is great. Thanks for putting it together.
So this thread wasn't a complete waste of time. (FYI, dsarea, nobody denies you're entitled to your opinion. It's just that we're entitled to the shared opinion that your opinion is wrong, ignorant, malicious, and motivated by the desire to make trouble -- that is, we are entitled to the opinion that you are a flaming troll. Which you are. I much enjoyed Encarta.)
P.S. Re: Intrepid acting: we need to get Nick Cook and Karl Puder in the same room again. Operation Beta Shield was fantastic, largely because of the Hunter/Korg scenes.
In my fantasy universe, they are joined by Julian Bane (Brahms, Excelsior) and Edward Gore (Buchanan, Outpost). It would be the greatest contest of curmudgeonly wits in the history of cinema.
I did not know about your fan film map, Barb, and it is great. Thanks for putting it together.
So this thread wasn't a complete waste of time. (FYI, dsarea, nobody denies you're entitled to your opinion. It's just that we're entitled to the shared opinion that your opinion is wrong, ignorant, malicious, and motivated by the desire to make trouble -- that is, we are entitled to the opinion that you are a flaming troll. Which you are. I much enjoyed Encarta.)
P.S. Re: Intrepid acting: we need to get Nick Cook and Karl Puder in the same room again. Operation Beta Shield was fantastic, largely because of the Hunter/Korg scenes.
In my fantasy universe, they are joined by Julian Bane (Brahms, Excelsior) and Edward Gore (Buchanan, Outpost). It would be the greatest contest of curmudgeonly wits in the history of cinema.
Well, Wowbanger, I'm glad you found my Fan Film map. It was the feature that made me feel I could start publicizing my website, since it was just a wee bit different than anything else I had seen.
Barbreader,
I agree with everything you said in your post, but this one line. The reason that I, at least, write fan fiction, or endeavor to make a fan film in an established universe, is because I have a story within that universe that I wish to tell. Simple as that. Yes, I have my own original-universe stuff that I am writing, but I grew up with Star Trek, and also BSG... those universes inspired me, and caused me to write stories set in those universes. But it's not that we don't like the universe of the show(s) as-is.
I'm confused. The CONTEXT of this comment was that the people involved weren't staying in any given established universe, but were mixing them. I understand writing Trek fiction, or Dr. Who fiction, or Stargate fiction, etc. I even understand crossovers for specific purposes (the Enterprise v. the Death Star). But in general, you aren't respecting the laws of each franchise if you do a crossover, and the overarching logic which has been developed is being thrown out.
It's true, although the phrase 'overarching logic' has been diluted quite a bit by revisions in Enterprise and NuTrek.
I like the TMP era, I like the level and look of the technology, and I like the feel of Starfleet politics (or rather the suggestion that politics might still be a dirty business, even among the Federation) from this era. I always thought that Decker and Ilia had potential as characters so if I want to use them, I need to sidestep into an alternate universe where they were restored by V'ger. If I'm taking that step, why not go further? It isn't as hard to blend concepts from the universes as you might think.
I've only knocked up 28 frames of story and it's all pretty basic stuff. Maybe I'll ask TMP experts like Therin or Christopher to have a look at it and give some tips before I spend too much time on it - other people might think it's dreadful.
In terms of merging concepts, I can merge elements of Psi-corp into Section 31, make the B5 races (and maybe TNG races) accessible via the Vorlons' jumpgate network, add in political alliances between B5 races and Trek races to give some new political dynamics, and there could be a wealth of new stories to tell. It's no stranger than the Mirror Universe after all. The themes from each show are not mutually exclusive and a bit of B5 mysteriousness would never have hurt Trek in my view.
It's an experiment. I'll see what people think!
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I have to admit I haven't read the whole thread, but tsk tsk. I sat down and watched the first three Encarta films today, having watched Dark Hope last year. I have nothing but praise for them. When I was 15, I was only just learning basic script writing techniques, never mind directorship or pretty advanced homemade CGI (especially for 1999... at least, I think it was advanced). I made a fanfilm myself when I was 15, and I'd be the first to say that would definitely be a contender for worst ever production.
And then to insult Intrepid too, more tsks. They're two of my favourites, so I hope any members of the Encarta or Intrepid cast and crews can take something from the fact that they have a loyal fan in me.
I'm not altogether happy my curiosity got the better of me with Hudson's link and I got Rickrolled tho
Well played sir.
In conclusion, I'd love to see more Encarta and Intrepid, and I really hope no-one is disheartened by the rather tactless critiques.
PS... I also just noticed the thread kinda fizzled out 2 weeks ago, so my apologies for any perceived bumpage.
And then to insult Intrepid too, more tsks. They're two of my favourites, so I hope any members of the Encarta or Intrepid cast and crews can take something from the fact that they have a loyal fan in me.
I'm not altogether happy my curiosity got the better of me with Hudson's link and I got Rickrolled tho
Well played sir.In conclusion, I'd love to see more Encarta and Intrepid, and I really hope no-one is disheartened by the rather tactless critiques.
PS... I also just noticed the thread kinda fizzled out 2 weeks ago, so my apologies for any perceived bumpage.
Thanks Jon. If you're ever North of the Border, give me a shout. 
Humble apologies, it wasn't aimed at you...SNIP
I'm not altogether happy my curiosity got the better of me with Hudson's link and I got Rickrolled tho
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Humble apologies, it wasn't aimed at you...SNIP
I'm not altogether happy my curiosity got the better of me with Hudson's link and I got Rickrolled tho
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Lol, it's quite all right. You did say not to click the link. I always paid attention in class but never followed directions. I learned a valuable lesson at the very least
And thanks Intrepid, I'll definitely do that if I ever manage to escape the grey wonderousness of the North West
You're most welcome.
I'll preface this post by stating I haven't read the entire thing. Actually about an hour and a half of it was spent enjoying myself watching Encarta and felt the need to post.
I thought this was great. I loved it and I thought it was a much more realistic approach to the Voyager situation of being lost in the "wilderness" than Voyager. I think the creator accomplished his goal of realizing the potential of Equinox and Year of Hell as he said in an earlier post.
I would say the original poster has a personal beef against these people for some reason. It's not even criticism, it's hate. It's easy for people to be hateful and stir up negativity and since there is about a 100 to 1 ratio of negative posts to positive ones... well there you go.
It's true that fan films rely on volunteer efforts and non-professionals. Yes it's true those things may show if you are comparing them to Hollywood actors, special effects and other talents that people get paid outrageous amounts of money to ply their trade. If you want Oscar award winning performances and blockbuster FX then stick to the movie theaters and regular television. One thing I think the fan films do provide (and many other independent films) is heart and certainly better writing. Many productions have better writing than most things current in Hollywood today.
I thought this was great. I loved it and I thought it was a much more realistic approach to the Voyager situation of being lost in the "wilderness" than Voyager. I think the creator accomplished his goal of realizing the potential of Equinox and Year of Hell as he said in an earlier post.
I would say the original poster has a personal beef against these people for some reason. It's not even criticism, it's hate. It's easy for people to be hateful and stir up negativity and since there is about a 100 to 1 ratio of negative posts to positive ones... well there you go.
It's true that fan films rely on volunteer efforts and non-professionals. Yes it's true those things may show if you are comparing them to Hollywood actors, special effects and other talents that people get paid outrageous amounts of money to ply their trade. If you want Oscar award winning performances and blockbuster FX then stick to the movie theaters and regular television. One thing I think the fan films do provide (and many other independent films) is heart and certainly better writing. Many productions have better writing than most things current in Hollywood today.