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The Walking Dead: World Beyond

This week's was largely meh. This show sure is moving at a glacial pace, with the whole drama of getting out of the factory by the tire fire padded out to last the hour. The ending with the young CRM soldier expressing doubts only to be taken away for reconditioning as a result was the show's highlight and really offered some interesting insight into the helicopter people and the Lt. Colonel in particular. They really need to shift the focus to more of them and less the teen angst.
 
Three whole episodes and all the best bits have been snippets. Those first three episodes could have been combined into one.
 
Yeah...my wife checked out of the episode at 40 minutes in (and i think the show in general)

What exactly did they show about Silas? He apparently beat someone up, if not killed them. But then he was listening to tapes by his grandparents at the end, encouraging him (and using scripture..but hoping they don't turn out to be religious stereotypes)... were they the ones he supposedly killed? I was hoping this episode would actually answer what his "problem" was and the truth of it. I don't see the need of dragging out this "mystery". At least we have a sense of why he is so willing to follow Iris.

Glad they resolved the truth between Iris and Hope, and based on that, forgiveness seemed reasonable. But if that was Elton's mom... how is THAT going to be resolved?

Also glad that Huck and Felix didn't take too long to find them.

But realisitically, they needed a death by now. Too small a crew right now to kill 'em off.

I am just interested in the CRM details... Julia Ormond does a great job making the character cloaked in mystery and internal conflict. But another confusing thing was her turning on everything like the fan, TV and stove... like she was trying to talk under survelence. What was the point of all that?

I hope they stop dragging, and start revealing more.
 
Morpheus 02 said:
What exactly did they show about Silas? He apparently beat someone up, if not killed them. But then he was listening to tapes by his grandparents at the end, encouraging him (and using scripture..but hoping they don't turn out to be religious stereotypes)... were they the ones he supposedly killed?
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I was under the impression he killed one or both of his parents, based on the abrupt way he said no when asked if he missed his mother.
Morpheus 02 said:
I am just interested in the CRM details... Julia Ormond does a great job making the character cloaked in mystery and internal conflict. But another confusing thing was her turning on everything like the fan, TV and stove... like she was trying to talk under survelence. What was the point of all that?
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The first time she did while trying to convince the young soldier of his purpose, I assumed it was something to emphasize her point. They have luxuries like electricity and something resembling pre-apocalyptic life only because of the ruthless necessities they carry out. But then when she did it again after he left, I don't know. Maybe a reminder of the luxuries they enjoy in a world where so many have regressed to pre-technological levels? But then, that seems at odds with the poster on her wall about "Self Indulgence at this Time is the Enemy."
 
Gave up on this show after episode 2. Totally and completely boring.

Have stuck with TWD and Fear, so I've forgiven some pretty poor stretches in both shows - especially Fear - I disliked most of the cast rather intensely, especially Madison.

But World Beyond is just more than I care to try to handle.
 
1.04 for the third episode. Exactly same as the second. That's probably high enough to get the season 2 they designed the show for.
 
My enthusiasm for this show is practically non existent, but I got around to watching episode two.

In this one, there was a lot of walking down empty streets. It reminded me of shows in the 60s, like Star Trek, that would open on an empty street, and then something exciting would happen that would begin the story. Except in this one it was mostly just the empty street for an hour. Well, there was a nice sleepover in a treehouse.

Not to say there wasn't drama: "Do you think we're the last generation? How does that make you feel?" "We've badly miscalculated the size of the horde. Let's hug it out." "I thought... I thought things would be different in the Zombie Apocalypse... but my daddy still doesn't like me."

I was begging for Morgan to stick his pike through my frontal lobes.
 
It’s always surprising to me when writers, in this case Matthew Negrete and Scott Gimple, can write and craft really good stories in The Walking Dead and then turn out shit like World Beyond. Did they forget how to make compelling, suspenseful TV? I know Gimple has his detractors but Negrete was one of the best writers on TWD for a while. I’ll keep watching because I’m a completist but this show is terrible so far (I’ve seen the first 4 episodes).

FTWD on the other hand looks like a return to form so at least there’s that.
 
The Habs Fan said:
It’s always surprising to me when writers, in this case Matthew Negrete and Scott Gimple, can write and craft really good stories in The Walking Dead and then turn out shit like World Beyond. Did they forget how to make compelling, suspenseful TV? I know Gimple has his detractors but Negrete was one of the best writers on TWD for a while. I’ll keep watching because I’m a completist but this show is terrible so far (I’ve seen the first 4 episodes).
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I think this show is written to appeal to actual teenagers (who shouldn't be watching it because it's rated M)
 
Once again, this show is crawling along at its glacial pace, though this week's didn't seem as mind numbingly terrible. Maybe I'm just starting to lower my expectations, or maybe it's getting into that so bad it's kind of good range. The show does seem to have a thing where they are showing the ingredients of making a point, but still making it unconvincing. For example, in flashbacks we learn that Hope is apparently always misbehaving because she craves her dad's attention, and then she apparently feels guilt that it's because of her misbehaving that her dad left to go to that research outpost or whatever. I mean, yes, okay, these are things young people can think, both with or without merit, but here it just seems like the writers aren't sure why the characters are acting the way they do, and so are relying on sticking well known psychological stuff in there and hoping it sticks.

And really, this show needs to pick up the pace. We're nearly halfway through the season and all that's really happened is that the characters keep bumbling around and somehow miraculously have not been killed yet. Along with some hints about the Civic Republic's shady nature. How much longer are they going to milk this out before the character at least learn their home has been destroyed?
Starbreaker said:
I don't think any of these characters have any interest in each other.
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There appears to be something developing between Iris and Silas.
 
So i only watched 20 minutes so far of the latest episodes...and wow. No spoilers... either you guys are good, or the show, not so much.

The thing is, i think i related to a little bit of EACH of the 4 young people, and it isn't necessarily THEIR acting as much as really the writing that isn't making me connect as much.

SPeaking of acting, i feel like the actress portraying Huck seems to be overdoing it/trying too hard. i appreciate her multiethniciyy (the actress at least), but we definitely need some flashbacks for her, especially in the years 2-9 of the apocalypse.

Really, they should have had a couple more characters of the wandering crew, so they could have killed someone by now, and then have a quick point of should they stay or go back.

ANd regarding any love triangles... pretty sure the two sisters are out (especially the revelation that Hope was adopted when she was an infant/toddler. It looks like Silas has a crush on Iris, since she treated him pretty decently. But Couduroy Boy will probably have at least an episode where he hates Hope for killing his mother, once that is revealed.

I really like the father, and hope they have some extended time with him by season's end. ''

crookeddy said:
I think this show is written to appeal to actual teenagers (who shouldn't be watching it because it's rated M)
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Umm....pretty sure a WHOLE LOT of teenagers (especially the main characters ages) have been watching, and possibly for years. But own teenager gets scared of haunted houses, so won't be able to know her reaction, possibly ever
 
The Habs Fan said:
It’s always surprising to me when writers, in this case Matthew Negrete and Scott Gimple, can write and craft really good stories in The Walking Dead and then turn out shit like World Beyond. Did they forget how to make compelling, suspenseful TV? I know Gimple has his detractors but Negrete was one of the best writers on TWD for a while. I’ll keep watching because I’m a completist but this show is terrible so far (I’ve seen the first 4 episodes).

FTWD on the other hand looks like a return to form so at least there’s that.
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I checked out of Walking Dead after season whatever... whichever one Carl died. He was annoying as fuck, and of course, the second he becomes likeable they kill him :rolleyes: I stuck around for Negan, because I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan, but him showing up once out of every seven episodes or so while dealing with dreadfully boring characters in the meantime turned me off from the show.

Fear the Walking Dead I quit when Madison was on the ranch. I started back in season four, and I actually really liked it. John Dorie was cool, and I really liked his cowboy vibe going with Morgan and Althea. But, I couldn't finish the rest of season five. I like Matt Frewer, but his plotline harassing the main characters about oil fields that should be plainly visible to anybody with access to a map was beyond stupid.

I tried World Beyond and fell asleep. First episode. I just can't anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE zombies! How the everloving FUCK Gimple and co. managed to make them boring is beyond me! If I want to watch a soap opera, I'll watch All My Children. I don't want to watch The Walking Dead: All My Children or The Walking Dead: Passions.
 
1.02 million for this one. Nothing dramatic but a new franchise low... Mostly holding stable though.
 
Starbreaker said:
A million viewers for a cable show is phenomenal. It's in no danger of being cancelled.
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Tell that to AMC's "nto the Badlands" which was canceled as soon as it dipped into 1.2 million viewer territory in its third season.

That said no, AMC isn't going to cancel any "TWD Universe" series no matter how bad the ratings get because their programming department seems to love The Walking Dead IP and has invested so much money and has a multi-year marketing and release schedule that unless everything suddenly craters - yeah they'll just ride it out.
 
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