Eugene is Batman?
The Walking Dead Season 5
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Eugene is Batman?
Meh. Rosita only confirmed to us that she thought he was intelligent because he helped them filter water.
Most HS graduates who took science class should be able to do that.
Needless to say, I'm unimpressed with his, "skills," thus far.
Homemade bullets would probably jam frequently in the autoloaders, homemade powder would almost certainly not work their actions, and it would be very hard to make primers. But if you hit the right sporting goods store and got the right reloading equipment and supplies, you could crank out perfectly decent ammo. The only problem is, the stuff would be very cumbersome to haul around everywhere, and you need a clear, stable workspace.
It would be best for the group to standardize on calibers, I would think 9mm and 5.56mm just because of military/police supplies. And .22 LR just for the walkers: It's quiet, has little kick, you can carry thousands of rounds on you and it's plenty good for disrupting a brain at close range.
It's clear they plan to make Eugene the resident Mr. Wizard. As long as the incredibly transparent lie is behind them, which really bugged me, I'm ready to move on. He's not an awful character to feature. Just like I wasn't really behind Carol executing sick people... but I'm over it now. If people stay hung up on this thing or that thing, that one person did, in this season or that one, they're not really watching the show, they're jamming up the viewing experience. It's never going to be perfect or up to every viewer's standard 100% of the time. It's a tv show that rehashes comic book plots.
Rick killed this one more brutally than that one. Carol became a sharp shooter in a heartbeat. Maggie seems unconcerned about Beth. It's cool to call attention to these things when they are going on, but eventually you have to leave it alone. The makeup of the show prevents it from the kind of linear excellence that you might get on a quality drama that focuses on only that, 24, or Deadwood, or Breaking Bad etc... & even those aren't perfect
It's still annoying that people who watched the CDC burn would think going into D.C. is a good plan, but meh... it gives them something to do dramatically, besides what real people would do... get as far from masses of people (Living or dead) as humanly possible. What story conflict is left once they've done that? Hell, I can even stomach Carl's aging, as long as he doesn't sprout a foot
Edit: Just watched it. I didn't see him making arrows
Rick killed this one more brutally than that one. Carol became a sharp shooter in a heartbeat. Maggie seems unconcerned about Beth. It's cool to call attention to these things when they are going on, but eventually you have to leave it alone. The makeup of the show prevents it from the kind of linear excellence that you might get on a quality drama that focuses on only that, 24, or Deadwood, or Breaking Bad etc... & even those aren't perfect
It's still annoying that people who watched the CDC burn would think going into D.C. is a good plan, but meh... it gives them something to do dramatically, besides what real people would do... get as far from masses of people (Living or dead) as humanly possible. What story conflict is left once they've done that? Hell, I can even stomach Carl's aging, as long as he doesn't sprout a foot
Thanks. Gonna go check that outTrekker4747 said:
Edit: Just watched it. I didn't see him making arrows
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You know this is a Star Trek board, right? This is the place where people dissect TV series long out of production, actors no longer alive, or plots they will never be able to change or "correct," but it is still discussed--occasionally with heat. At least with The Walking Dead, the series is still in production, so viewers feel more of an "investment" in the direction of characters / situations as it unfolds--which the producers most certainly desire.
The day people stop having energetic opinions about the series is the day the series is probably ready for the chopping block.
The CDC was not the end-all of research, Jenner did not fully understand what happened, and in D.C., there's the main CDC Washington Office, which partners with other infectious disease centers in the area, and (arguably) was likely the hotspot for the ZA research as it happened.
Even if the main group never met Eugene, anyone interested in information about an official response to the ZA, it would not be a stretch to head to Washington.
That, or they can head back to the site of the Greene farm. After nearly a year since escaping it, that zombie herd did not set up camp there. For all anyone knows, the Green home or that nearby house could be standing. If that did not work, they could take a page from Morgan's book and take over a small town block, setting guard posts and walker traps.
It worked well for Morgan, and he had no help.
Mulletman.
I think Rick agreeing to try and negotiate was a mistake and will likely get Carol or Beth killed, if not someone else in the group. Already it is shown to be a problem with the cop who escaped (even though that sadly required Stupid Character™). At this point, Dawn does not know that Beth and Carol came from the same group. But Rick going to negotiate for them will reveal that, and I think it's only going to lead to trouble for them.
I think Rick knows it's a mistake, which is why he suggested the full blown violence to begin with, and why he gives people the sideways glances when they suggest otherwise. It's important to note that he's letting the group decide on these encounters now, even if it might be wrong, because I think he knows that they can only act the way they're able, and are able to live with themselves. If he forced the issue of going in violently, and some of the group weren't up to it, it's just as likely to go off the rails as this exchange plan is
It's a good point. I suppose they could still do that before they get there. I guess if they don't, it could be so they can have a live exchange with some of the element of surprise on their side still. Even if you arrange it over the radio, the exchange still has to be done in person. So it's still the same risk, but now you've also showed your hand a bit. This way, they are an unknown element... sort of
I admit though, that's not much of an explanation
Trying to negotiate opens the door to time, initiating alternatives (simultaneously) with hidden members if talk does not work. The risk of sneaking in is that even with Noah's intel, they cannot know how many potential enemies they will face, or where they will be.
Further, if Dawn (or any of the other guards) believe the 3 cops are long overdue, it could send her people to alert status, making the situation completely unpredictable for Rick's plans.
Looking forward to another great mid-season finale tonight.
What does everyone think?
Will there be another major character death? If so who will it be?
The popular opinion I've seen over the last week says it'll be either Beth or Carol.
I'm thinking Beth, but you never know with this show.
What does everyone think?
Will there be another major character death? If so who will it be?
The popular opinion I've seen over the last week says it'll be either Beth or Carol.
I'm thinking Beth, but you never know with this show.
Major character death is all but certain, TWD has a pretty good record with the mid-season finale having something big in it and 2 out of 3 of the mid-season finales have featured a character death or emotional punch. (Sophia (granted odds were leaning on her being dead but the episode confirmed it and killed her re-animated state) in S2, Herschel in S1. We could probably make a case of Oscar (?) in S3 but he wasn't a major character and essentially got red-shirted.)
So I'd say we're certainly in for a character death tonight and it's either going to be Beth or Carol, I think things might be leaning towards Beth but I think Carol's "arc" has played out and being a S1 character she's on borrowed time.
Maybe Tyrese. He hesitates too long to kill someone and he's history. He's the only one who knows Carol's big secret and he seems like he's getting tired of living if it means he has to keep killing to survive. But it should be Carol because of the huge air bubble Beth injected into her.
It was fairly telegraphed that Beth was going to be it as the episode progressed. When we got the Talking Dead commercial I actually thought Beth would live since Chris announced a special guest and I figured that guest would be whomever dies in this episode and "Beth" was on a couple weeks ago. You win again, Hardwick.
The death of Beth was still very powerful and emotional, particularly in how Daryl reacts (damn, Norman, you're a good actor!) and then Maggie later outside. I wonder if any of the hospital people joined Rick's group?
Good stuff back at the church and re-entrance with Abraham in order to bring the group back together. (Can they stay together, now?)
And a good Marvel-ian post-credit sequence with Morgan. And I *knew* he'd end up at the church and find the map with Rick's name on it and the route to Alexandria!
I think I may have actually been starting to "like" Dawn in a way and sort of see where she was coming from.
And, was anyone else a bit anxious about Rick losing his signature gun?
Powerful, good, episode. I think the death scene and the way it resonated with the characters and the tone of the show is up there with walker-Sophia coming out of the barn. (Herschel's death was quick and lead right into a big fight sequence so we didn't get a lot of time to see the characters process it.)
Shame to see Beth go but, I suppose, there's not much to do with her character, really. (Though I still feel that goes more-so for Carol who's now a bit more of a liability considering the injuries she likely suffered.) I thought the actress did a good job, too. But, alas.
Rest In Peace Beth, tonight I drink some peach Schnapps in your honor. Well, not really.
The death of Beth was still very powerful and emotional, particularly in how Daryl reacts (damn, Norman, you're a good actor!) and then Maggie later outside. I wonder if any of the hospital people joined Rick's group?
Good stuff back at the church and re-entrance with Abraham in order to bring the group back together. (Can they stay together, now?)
And a good Marvel-ian post-credit sequence with Morgan. And I *knew* he'd end up at the church and find the map with Rick's name on it and the route to Alexandria!
I think I may have actually been starting to "like" Dawn in a way and sort of see where she was coming from.
And, was anyone else a bit anxious about Rick losing his signature gun?
Powerful, good, episode. I think the death scene and the way it resonated with the characters and the tone of the show is up there with walker-Sophia coming out of the barn. (Herschel's death was quick and lead right into a big fight sequence so we didn't get a lot of time to see the characters process it.)
Shame to see Beth go but, I suppose, there's not much to do with her character, really. (Though I still feel that goes more-so for Carol who's now a bit more of a liability considering the injuries she likely suffered.) I thought the actress did a good job, too. But, alas.
Rest In Peace Beth, tonight I drink some peach Schnapps in your honor. Well, not really.
The group has to remind him how much he HAS saved lives (such as Rick , Michonne & Carl from the Claimers.)
He'll definitely grieve, but he deserves & would get the emotional support he needs.
I think that 's what the Morgan post credit scene is about...he's months behind Rick, and still on foot....so another time jump to find them. (Perhaps save them in the nick of time).
Will Judith survive?
So who was the mystery person Dawn & O Donnell were "really" working for?
ANd Beth's death was good noble one.
ANd Beth's death was good noble one.
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