The Walking Dead Season 3

[Dorian Thompson]

Yeah, unless Martinez and the others took revenge for it and killed them. Rick's group is hamstrung by the fact that they care about each others' well being. Rick and Daryl dying wouldn't be good for the long term health of our favorite survivors.

 

[Thestral]

If any of you had to guess, who will be the next prison character to say bye-bye this season?

Beth is the first one that comes to mind.

Am I the only one that wants the group's current Comics Universe adversary to appear in Season NEVER?

Unfortunately I agree - along with

Spoiler: comics

Judith, probably trying to flee with her like Lori did in the comics. I think Judith's death is almost certain just because it'd be so shocking and neatly deals with the "how do we raise a baby?" question.

. But I really hope that doesn't happen, cause it'd be cheap and I'd like to see a little more development from her.

After Beth I'd have to say Herschel, then Carol (who could actually take Beth's place in the scenario above). Merle and Andrea both I could see not making it, but I think Andrea's safer since she's been such a major character this season. I'm assuming based on next week's preview that Tyrese and Sasha are coming back in the picture, so... dude and his son, whatever their names were... are probably goners.

I'm behind on the comics - last I read

Spoiler: Comics

they were trying to adjust to being in some town... Alexandria, I think? How far back is that now?

Yes, you've already made clear you're dodging the problems, unthinking mind-numb robot. Go away now and let some thinking-fans have a go around here.

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I think Merle had the right idea, killing the governor would've probably made their lives a lot simpler.

It was not so easy. Anyone would--or should expect the governor to have more backup around than Martinez and the butler, so attacking at that moment would seem like a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Kosh Naranek]

Rick is smart enough to know that the Governor is just not going to let them go, but I think a piece of him wants to be it as simple as handing over Michonne = peace.

I love Herschel. I laughed so hard when he said that Milton had to buy him a drink.

I have enjoyed the past two eps quite a lot, but now that they have a home base, they need to start stockpiling food and medical supplies.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Is everyone saying Beth because she's the most disposable?

I think Merle had the right idea, killing the governor would've probably made their lives a lot simpler.

It was not so easy. Anyone would--or should expect the governor to have more backup around than Martinez and the butler, so attacking at that moment would seem like a disaster waiting to happen.

Maybe they returned to Woodbury in other vehicles?

Yeah, you may be right but it seemed like it might have been a worthwhile idea to explore.

 

[Sindatur]

And yet you.... don't.

In fact, you people keep coming up with excuses so you don't have to deal with the problems in this episode.

Uh... no. We don't have to deal with the problems in this episode regardless. There's no one requiring us to explain anything.

Yes, you've already made clear you're dodging the problems, unthinking mind-numb robot. Go away now and let some thinking-fans have a go around here.

Wow, no point in conversely with civility, apparently

 

[Rhaven]

I think Merle had the right idea, killing the governor would've probably made their lives a lot simpler.

It was not so easy. Anyone would--or should expect the governor to have more backup around than Martinez and the butler, so attacking at that moment would seem like a disaster waiting to happen.

I agree, the Governor needs to die. The question is, will it be Andrea with a knife or one of Rick's group with a well placed bullet?

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Or Milton? Or Martinez? Or will the townsfolk get all righteous on his ass and dump him in an empty zombie trap and let him wait for the inevitable?

Mark

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Or Milton? Or Martinez? Or will the townsfolk get all righteous on his ass and dump him in an empty zombie trap and let him wait for the inevitable?

Mark

If the governor met his end that way, it would be the biggest cheer-inducing moment in WD history. Bigger than Rick killing Shane.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I think Merle had the right idea, killing the governor would've probably made their lives a lot simpler.

It was not so easy. Anyone would--or should expect the governor to have more backup around than Martinez and the butler, so attacking at that moment would seem like a disaster waiting to happen.

I agree, the Governor needs to die. The question is, will it be Andrea with a knife or one of Rick's group with a well placed bullet?

I think the governor will be the victim of an amputation...but not of his hands, arms, legs.....

Not operating from spoilers or anything of that nature, but I can see that happening to him at the hands of Maggie, Michonne, or Andrea. I think its almost a sure thing a woman will be the agent of his downfall.

 

[DarthTom]

Not operating from spoilers or anything of that nature, but I can see that happening to him at the hands of Maggie, Michonne, or Andrea. I think its almost a sure thing a woman will be the agent of his downfall.

It's going to have to be a princple that kiills of the Governor because we as the viewer just aren't emotionally invested in the townsfolk IMO. They are simply background noise to the main part of the story and the characters.

 

[Neroon]

And yet you.... don't.

In fact, you people keep coming up with excuses so you don't have to deal with the problems in this episode.

Uh... no. We don't have to deal with the problems in this episode regardless. There's no one requiring us to explain anything.

Yes, you've already made clear you're dodging the problems, unthinking mind-numb robot. Go away now and let some thinking-fans have a go around here.

Infraction for flaming. Comments to PM

 

[davejames]

I'm not too familiar with the comic, but isn't the Governor supposed to, like, hang around a while? From all the hype, I got the impression he was the chief villain of the series or something.

Not that I'd have a problem with him dying at the end of this season. He's a great villain, but at least in the TV version I'm not sure this conflict can really go on much longer before it starts to gets tired.

 

[Vendikarr]

I'm not too familiar with the comic, but isn't the Governor supposed to, like, hang around a while? From all the hype, I got the impression he was the chief villain of the series or something.

Not that I'd have a problem with him dying at the end of this season. He's a great villain, but at least in the TV version I'm not sure this conflict can really go on much longer before it starts to gets tired.

Spoiler: The Governor

In the comic, he was around for 21 issues, starting in issue 27 and ending in issue 48. the book is currently on issue 108. The prison storyline was one of the most popular of the comic series because of the Governor, and his impact as a villain was big, but he was not the main villain of the entire series.

I think the current villain in the comic makes the Governor look like a cuddly puppy.

 

[propita]

Andrea's a fool!

I don't like Martinez that much, but he and Daryl were bonding nicely, agreeing that, regardless of what they want, it "will be decided" that they go to war. Maybe Martinez won't be so bad? Now that he sees these guys as individuals, mightn't he turn on the Governor? He seems less gung-ho than just an episode or two ago.

Still don't know why they don't just kill zombies at the fence of the prison. They can thin the herd a bit, and if things get settled with the Governor, they can repair the fence and use the grassy area for crops. They're gonna need food.

 

[wissaboo]

because then you couldn't have all those dramatic shots of them broodily looking over a field of zombies. Or driving by them when they enter the prison.

 

[Tom]

they are afraid to be out in the open do to fear of snipers, otherwise they would have fixed the fence.

Also, I want the governor to be around next season, David Morresy does such a great job portrating him.

 

[Silvercrest]

Not operating from spoilers or anything of that nature, but I can see that happening to him at the hands of Maggie, Michonne, or Andrea. I think its almost a sure thing a woman will be the agent of his downfall.

It's going to have to be a princple that kiills of the Governor

That can't be it. He doesn't have any principles.

 

[doubleohfive]

Re: "CLEAR" SUCKED

"Clear" SUCKED.

I don't understand people claiming "Clear" was "the best episode yet". It was so full of problems.

Rick and Michonne essentially murdered the Hitchhiker. Michonne's ugly cat was more important that that man's life. And do you believe you will ever see that crap cat again?

They already had baby cribs at the daycare center where Darryl and Maggie got the baby formula the day the baby was born. They chose not to get one when they were already there (probably more than once) and was closer to the prison.

Morgan wanted to clear the entire world of Walkers, yet kept the local Grille restaurant one block away fully occupied with 10 Walkers and with an unlocked door? The back door was unlocked too, as that's how Michonne went back in to get her gay cat statue which she just whipped out of nowhere.

Didn't Merle say the Governor probably had snipers on every road out of the prison to pluck them off when they tried to leave?

They go all that way to find the police station locker room empty, but they don't bother to look in the one dozen bullet boxes scattered all over the floor? Or the desk drawers?

The hitchhiker is carrying a cooking skillet hanging off his backpack? Doesn't that indicate he was carrying food which they said at the prison they were running out of the previous episode? I saw it. The three of them didn't?

How could they be running out of food at the prison when they had wall-to-wall shelves full of food just one month earlier?

Morgan murdered innocent people to hoard their guns. Merle murders. The Governor murders. Michonne murders. Shane murders. Rick murders. Maggie murdered Hayley the teenage girl when they rescued Darryl and Merle from the Arena. Carl shoots Morgan now. You're running out of characters to like.

They said they need all the guns at the police station but appear to only take one bag from Morgan.

Michonne said Carl needed a box to carry the crib so she went with them, then they carried the crib back without a box. They said they were running out of baby formula. They get the crib, but not any baby formula which was vital? As the cop, Rick didn't know a single person in the town who had a baby so they can search the house?

Unless the Axe trap was spring loaded with great pressure, just having it fall would probably only cut someone and pushed them down the stairs, yet it was covered with blood deep to the handle.

The axe was covered with bright red blood, yet anybody who ever removed an old band-aid knows old blood turns brick-red or brown. I still can't believe the FX guys keep doing "bright red" old blood. It's practically fluorescent.

Why was the axe trap all bloody but the welcome mat trap wasn't? Why didn't Rick toss the welcome matt aside so Carl wouldn't fall into it and so they wouldn't forget. Why didn't they trip the axe trap after they passed it so they wouldn't forget? How did Morgan manage to dig a square hole into the concrete sidewalk to lay the welcome mat trap with spikes?

Rick and Michonne saw the live birds in the cages in the street traps. They KNEW someone was there feeding them. They KNEW the street was occupied by a crazy person. They went in anyway.

It appears the hitchhiker may have come from the car accident, as the bodies they saw in the cars looked fresh. Which means the hitchhiker would know they just went through a town, but he goes forward to uncertainty. He had to have passed through the town anyway even if he came from elsewhere. Why didn't he grab a car from the town? And why didn't Morgan kill the hitchhiker for his backpack when he passed through? That's what Morgan does now isn't it?

Michonne had a crossbow when they loaded the car at the end (probably for Darryl). I wished they showed her picking it up, because now Darryl will have TWO crossbows and it will confuse people.

When Morgan was firing on them from the rooftop, did he tell them to drop their guns and their.... shoes?

How did Michonne teleport in and out of buildings and rooftops?

I still don't understand why they aren't plucking off the Walkers through the prison fence with their sword and knives. Given time, they would take out half of them without a shot fired.

Morgan said he and his son drove for days and/or weeks to Atlanta. But he said his son was killed by his Walker Wife when they were in a house. This means Morgan took off on the road to Atlanta... for days and/or weeks... and then turned around and went back to the town again. Otherwise it means his Walker Wife (Stalker Wife) followed them on foot to Atlanta.

What are the odds that it was Morgan's Walker-Stalker Wife would find their son? Didn't Morgan bother to close the door to the houses they were searching?

Did Morgan say he didn't turn on the walky talky for days? And you blame Rick for not being there when you finally bother to listen - when you knew Rick would have been in a city hours away?

Rick knew he shot that cop Walker in the first episode outside the police station through the fence. He didn't bother to look to see if the body was still their with bullets and a gun?

Rick knew the Bars had guns behind the counters. I thought of that back in season two when Rick and Glenn followed Hershel to the bar where Rick had the shootout with those two guys and ended up with Randall. Even then they never looked behind the bar. Every movie that has a bar fight has a bar owner with his gun.

Rick found out from Morgan's map that his house burned down. But every cop would have guns and/or bullets. What about Shane's house? Rick knew that Walker Cop through the fence in Episode One was turned so probably never made it back to his own house. All Rick needed to do was get a phone book. He knew the names of his co-workers.

Rick also said he signed the gun permits for the Bar Owners. Which means you have a whole list of Gun Owners in that Police Station. Go get it. It would also have their addresses and what types of guns and ammunition you're looking for.

Morgan scrawled on the wall a bunch of names of people who turned. So Morgan was with other people in this town this whole time who slowly got wiped out? And you don't mention this? If Morgan was alone this whole time, how did he know the people who got turned and where they turned?

There would be pictures of Carl's mother in their grandparents house. Both of them. They probably didn't live there but they did live somewhere.

I'm sure some of these could be explained. I'm also sure there are more problems with this episode I haven't covered yet. "Clear" had a LOT of problems. And after a year away from the TrekBBS, I came back just to vent this.

You know, you and I have never quite seen eye to eye, Whettestone, and even now I find I am completely in no way shape or form agreeing with anything you bring up here; your obsessiveness with attention to detail completely overrides what little (if any) storytelling sensibility you may possess but again - that's your right.

Really the only thing I object to in your overlong post is the use of the word "gay" as a pejorative. We're all --yes, even you-- better than that and it would be a LOT easier to consider what you have to say if you could tone down the vitriol and the needless swipe against a whole subset of our population in the real world just because you don't like something that happened on a tv show in a fictional world.

 

[davejames]

Spoiler: The Governor

In the comic, he was around for 21 issues, starting in issue 27 and ending in issue 48. the book is currently on issue 108. The prison storyline was one of the most popular of the comic series because of the Governor, and his impact as a villain was big, but he was not the main villain of the entire series.

I think the current villain in the comic makes the Governor look like a cuddly puppy.

Ah ok, thanks.