Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Gotham Central, Jul 14, 2012.
If Carl's going to take on Axel, Rick, AND Ben over Beth, he's got his work cut out for him.
Yeah, so I read. I don't think I'd like the comic. Sounds too much like torture porn.
For the most part I'd argue against that, but after recently reading the latest TPB (#97-102) and seeing what happens in #100.
IMO that was way OTT and horrible. We really didn't need to see that happen to that person. I get that it's a grim world but that was just a bit sick.
I agree. Plus I'm also getting bored with the comic. doesn't feel new anymore
That's one of the problems with the Dark & Gritty approach. It always has to one-up itself.
I can understand the confusion since she calls him Tyreese instead of dad. But its pretty clear that that is his daughter along with her boyfriend. The major difference is that she was not nearly that assertive in the comics. Somehow I don't see this version of her following in the footsteps of her comics counterpart.
That's true. The producers and writers on the series have said publicly they want the show to go on indefinitely. I'm not sure modern audiences will accept a story arc that has the characters forever living a more grim life. There has to be IMO at some point hope and a search for the "cure," or people will tire of new and existing characters simply getting killed off each and every season.
I know what you mean. (I read it via the TPBs by the way) To be fair I was really enjoying it until this last one. Where yeah it does feel like its just going round in circles now. Its the prison/Govener arc all over again, just more so. And you know its gonna last for probably dozens of issues.
I'd like to see them do something wild, like I don't know... they leave America, try to escape overseas or something. Just bored of the routine-
- find a new place to set up
- fight off zombies
- have an tense stand off with the locals
- defend base from asshole gang who want it for themselves
- keep introducing cypher characters
- kill them off soon enough
- etc etc
The TV show eventually may suffer form the same rinse repeat story lines. They need to insert episodes like the one at the CDC that starts to explain what's happening and introduce a grander effort to defeat the illness.
Robert Kirkman said he had a roughly 300-issue run planned for TWD comics. This works out to 25 years!
Thing is, I hope they will continue to go from one overrun place to the next, at least for now. This seems to be the only realistic way of gettign the characters to explore the post-apocalypse world... However I'm sure eventually, once humanity as a whole becomes used to life-with-zombies, we'll have several established communities with our main characters braving the wilderness to go between them. Sorta like the world of Revolution, with less living people.
True! This series after the governor arc needs a goal as it will get boring really fast.
In the comics whats the next scenario? Heard alot about the prison arc but not much after.
I'm delaying my purchase of the latest trade for the reasons cited above. I love this series, and I love the set-up in the current arc. But the "event" you're referring to leaves me cold: not delicious dread but a kind of ennui dread. It doesn't seem to lead to story possibilities. Maybe that's the point.
Spoiler: The next phase of the comics
After the prison arc, they are basically on the road for twenty or so issues. Each storyline lasts three to five issues. I would describe it as: Aftermath of the prison / Join scientist & ex-military Abraham and Rosita going to D.C. / Morgan and Dwayne / THE herd / The Minister / Cannibals / Alexandria. There is a lot left out but that gives you the gist of things.
I keep wondering why they aren't already killing every zombie they see. At some point they have to start trying to exterminate them
Daryl has mentioned in the past that they should be doing that. The other thing is, even if the decomposition process is slowed, these zombies are obviously rotting away-- how many months or years will it be before the zombie herds become completely unjustifiable?
That would be far too much common sense for this series, which features characters making irrational decisions every step of the way, as though they have learned nothing from surviving in a world overrun with zombies.
The producers continue to have the characters act this way for the sake of false drama. Some characters are interesting, but they end up suffering when the main plots must have most making assbrained mistakes or motivated by decisions anyone would see as a disaster in the making.
The producer argument against that is "new zombies are created all the time," so when the older ghouls decompose beyond functionality, there's another generation to replace them.
bad math, though. The BULK of new zombies would have been right at the start of the outbreak. They either turned or killed a huge percentage of the humans. From now on, the new zombie creation would be a trickle at best.
Especially since the zombies are just as likely to tear apart as to bite and turn a person, so they're not even making new zombies at a slow level, it's a very tiny number. Small human population, and really just getting the ones that die of non-zombie causes at this point, so they won't be replenishing the herd.
I would be killing everyone I saw as well, especially the ones around the prison.
I know Rick said he wanted a bunch still lurking around the fence to make it look like the prison was still overrun and keep strangers away (the bad ones) but wouldn't that keep the people legitimately looking for help away too?
Has Rick totally abandoned his plan to look for other survivors and a safe haven?
He has the safe haven, so...
I just know that it would always be in the back of my mind that the Zombies might find a way in or one of them could potentially bite me or one of my group on the way in or out of the prison.
I would also think that if I killed all the ones around me that it would take days, weeks, months or even years for others to potentially reach me and I would want to deal with them on more of a one on one/two bases instead of a herd.
As far as making new ones... How many new ones could be made with the majority being made in the first days, weeks, months of the outbreak?
How many could be made with the majority consuming any potential new ones? OR
If you are bitten the other survivors "take care of you" either before or after you die.
Don't we see week after week all the abandoned cities that are overrun with zombies?
Aren't we lead to believe that there are only small pockets of survivors left here and there?
Right, beat me to it.
That's the math the producers have cornered themselves into applying, otherwise, there is no zombie threat beyond a few months, as decomposition to the point where tendons, etc, rot away only takes a very short amount of time. Of course, the producers would argue that the laws of nature do not apply in their fantasy world, for the same reason zombies could not exist in the real world.
So for their own ends, large numbers of zombies will continue to be produced forever.
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