Well, c'mon, it was the 80s. EVERYTHING was advanced back then.Heh. Calling any version of Sea Cat "advanced" in anything else but years should be a punishable offense...an advanced Sea Cat anti-air system

For that matter, Conquerer sunk the Belgrano with a pair of 60-year-old straight-running torpedoes. "Advanced" in this context is a relative term.
It could actually be argued that the Belgrano was a soft target, with no means of defending herself against submarine threats, and was sunk to deter the hard surface targets (the Exocet-packing Type 42s and the at least minimally ASW-capable destroyers) and their carrier protege that were the real threat to RN surface units.
Partially true. It's just that most people overlook the fact that attack submarines are unequivocally lethal to just about everything in the ocean, especially surface ships.
What the hell are you talking about? Anti-ship missiles are not designed to penetrate armor. AT ALL. Anything WITH armor is, by definition, missile proof. This was actually one of the key strategic points in World War-II, when American aircraft carriers were found to be vulnerable to Kamikaze attacks because they had omitted armored flight decks. British carriers had included armored decks at the cost of a reduced flight wing and as a result were nearly impervious to Kamikaze attacks. The difference was so dramatic that it is often joked (probably apocryphally) that British captains would warn their crews of Kamikaze attacks with the address "Deck crews, man your brooms!"yet another example of ships being as strong as they NEED to be, not as strong as they CAN
Even the Iowa Class would be sunk. Easily. There are no missile proof ships.
Better example: USS Tennessee was hit by Kamikaze planes on three seperate occasions during WWII, in two cases with high explosives going off in the superstructure. NONE of those strikes actually disabled the ship, since none of them penetrated the ship's armor.
You simply don't know what you're talking about. Guided missiles have NO capacity to penetrate shipboard armor, primarily because most surface vessels don't HAVE any armor and there is no reason to design a missile to penetrate it.
That's just wrong. They've ceased using it because surface combatants are no longer equipped to directly engage other surface combatants in combat. Their primarily role is defending an aircraft carrier from airborne threats, which requires them to be fast and maneuverable.Are not designed to penetrate armor protection that nobody uses anymore? Not really that ludicrous in context.
No one uses it BECAUSE it wont stop the missiles.
Aircraft carriers and some submarines DO carry armor. The former because they are considered to be the primary target of any naval engagement, the latter because they are the primary aggressor in many naval engagements. Put that another way: the only things that carry armor these days are things that aren't cannon fodders, which MOST surface vessels basically are.
It's worth pointing out, however, that some very smart people at West Point wargamed the scenario of a full-scale war against the Soviets a couple of dozen times in the past few years, and more recently against the Chinese. It actually turns out that against any sort of modern opposition, U.S. surface groups would have a depressingly low survival rate and the lack of armored protection means the carrier's escort would be put out of commission relatively quickly.
The planet killer is made out of solid neutronium. Starfleet doesn't have weapons capable of punching through it. The only way to destroy the planet killer is to shove a starship down its throat and blow it up from the inside. Vengeance isn't equipped to do that on its own.More than sufficient to handle the Planet Killer or V'Ger.
Because Enterprise's communications system didn't pick up the signal. AT ALL. It was the science suite that picked up the signal, at a frequency of over a million megahertz and at such a high rate of speed that the entire message lasted only a millisecond. It actually took Spock several minutes to go through his sensor log and find the signal, and then only because he knew for sure that V'ger had been trying to communicate.Why would they not be able to pick up the same transmission that the Enterprise did. Are communications not important to combat ships?
For Vengeance to pull this off it would need an advanced set of scientific sensors designed to passively scan every spectrum of the EM frequency and record that data in an archive (this is what the "library computer" on the Enterprise does) and also a science officer clever enough to use the system as effectively as Spock. Even Decker isn't fully up to that task; Marcus' Section 31 flunkies certainly wouldn't be.
But we have no reason to think that ANY starfleet sensors on ANY starfleet ship couldnt have located a radio transmission.
1 million mhz isn't radio. That's a millisecond pulse in the far infrared spectrum. Enterprise is able to identify that signal because it has a frequency-agile infrared telescope on board and a computer that records EVERYTHING the sensors detect. Vengeance, which isn't designed for scientific analysis, does not.
"Weapons and troops" didn't defeat the Borg. DATA did, with a single command that triggered a self-destruct sequence in the cube.That's normal in warfare. Radar, sonar, stealth and other scientific advances go along way to winning wars, but at the same time, the actual weapons and troops do the fighting.
Which the exploration and scientific ships essentially are: they are, as we've shown, PERFECTLY capable of engaging in combat. They are just not built exclusively for it because conventional military threats are actually the LEAST of the Federation's problems.The existence of the Klingon, Romulan and other known potential military threats justifiy having lots of heavily armed combat ships.
It's quite the opposite in fact: they need to brush up on their cybernetics acumen in order to more efficiently neutralize the Borg when they come calling. Trying to outgun the Borg is a loosing proposition because they can always bring more firepower to the table than the Federation can, and this is probably true of any enemy they will ever face.The fact that they got their asses kicked is reason to IMPROVE combat capability, not write it off as secondary to the scientific efforts.
But trying to OUTSMART the Borg is perfectly dooable, especially since you can generally do this before the Borg have actually arrived.
There is no "right weapon" in this situation. Starfleet is not going to out-gun V'ger; that one ship has enough firepower to slag entire planets and make it look easy.Ha, they didnt have the right weapon
Not as critical as scientific knowledge and adaptability, which Enterprise actually proved in this case: We KNOW that Enterprise was able to neutralize V'ger by fulfilling its programming. We do not know for sure that blowing up the ship would have done anything to V'ger's except make it angry (as the novelization implies was the case; this was actually not the first time an enemy had attacked V'ger's core and it had evolved defenses to keep its central brain protected at all costs).Point being, that weapons and defenses are critical to survival.
It's more than that. Science is what SOLVED THE PROBLEM. Enterprise's weapons and defenses weren't all that effective against V'ger; her phasers were next to useless, and her screens wouldn't have been up to a second attack had it hit them.The very advantage the Enterprise had in "screens" allowed it to survive long enough to continue it's mission, and it was V'Gers weapons and shields that made it so dangerous. Naturally, the lesson learned there is to continue improving combat capability. Science is a huge part of that. All agreed.
It remains a fact that a vessel built PURELY FOR COMBAT could not have solved the V'ger problem; it would not have survived long enough to do so had it had the opportunity. Starfleet knows this, which is why they DO NOT build ships purely for combat.
Vengeance itself is actually proof enough of this: in a battle between the "purely for combat" USS Vengeance and the multirole explorer Enterprise, which one of them actually WON that fight?