The Ultimate Knowledge...

[HaventGotALife]

A man driven crazy by knowing too much. This is a downside of exploring, intelligence (it makes you see patterns others cannot, cannot connect intellectually) can isolate you. Could we build a narrative, over a season, of one of these shows, a species, something, where they are humanoid and cannot handle all the knowledge they have gained?

 

[HaventGotALife]

Man knows what God knows. Man goes crazy.

Man knows what God knows. Is disappointed there is not more. He imagined more.

Man knows what God knows, is disheartened he cannot learn more.

Man knows what God knows, All seems trite.

Man knows what God knows, uses it for destruction.

Man knows what God knows, is lonely for knowing it.

Man knows what God knows, tests those lessons.

Man knows what God knows, wants to die, take knowledge with him to save humanity.

Man asks God to take away what man knows of God's knowledge.

 

[DaveyNY]

I'm pretty sure that something along those lines was covered in the Voyager episode with the Q's debating about one of Their Own wanting to commit suicide ... (VOY) "Death Wish".

 

[HaventGotALife]

I'm pretty sure that something along those lines was covered in the Voyager episode with the Q's debating about one of Their Own wanting to commit suicide ... (VOY) "Death Wish".

And in Where No Man is Gone Before (defects in Gary Mitchell's character made him a terrible god) and TMP (V'Ger is bored, wants to join with the creator, and lonely). Still, to do it as a theme, to do them all, has some merit.

 

[HaventGotALife]

Gary Mitchell became a god after he was assumed long dead. Kirk wants to know what Gary Mitchell knows. He is an explorer, catnip. Gary was once an explorer, now he is worshiped by cultures for his knowledge, and hates it. Gary does what every God does when he wishes to punish us--he grants our wishes. Kirk learns the ultimate knowledge of Gary Mitchell, and asks him to remove it, going through all the stages of mourning of no longer exploring. He does this to anyone who worships him, in vengeance. They all have differing reactions. Gary is ended by another god he created, in his wrath. This power-seeking god is destroyed by the followers of Gary Mitchell, the worshipers left after Mitchell's wrath. Kirk forgets all his knowledge, the events questioning whether he'd like to explore, again.

The references to the characters, just stand-ins for the concepts.

 

[BillJ]

Not sure what this has to do with the Future of Trek?

 

[Lord Garth]

Not sure what this has to do with the Future of Trek?

Me either but the Eymorg recommended I use the Teacher, so I put it on and now I have Ultimate Knowledge... and got my hair done at the same time.

But then Ultimate Knowledge drove me crazy. And that's why I was committed to went to Antos IV.

 

[HaventGotALife]

Not sure what this has to do with the Future of Trek?

You're right--where this thread went, it needs to be in Fan fic.

 

[The Old Mixer]

You're right--where this thread went, it needs to be in Fan fic.

I'm taking that as a request and moving the thread.

 

[HaventGotALife]

Thank you for moving it. I love this concept, that we came to the end of exploration and gained the knowledge to not be God, but can act as God would, and the psychological effects of it. How would we act with the ultimate knowledge of there was nothing left to explore? The idea that one of our heroes questions exploring, as a way of life, but still accepts that way of life, interesting. I feel like that was the message of the pilots done, cautionary tales that provide context to the morality plays--that we need it's wrong with the knowledge we gain.