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Spoilers The Tsuranga Conundrum grade and discussion thread

How do you rate The Tsuranga Conundrum?


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I think it's missing that energy and flair. Past nuWho was full of epic speeches from the Doctor, or high stakes that put you on the edge of your seat, or last minute saves by the Doctor that had you jumping out of your chair with excitement or emotional farewell scenes. This series is much more down to earth. There is nothing really memorable or epic. No big speeches from the Doctor. No emotional roller coaster.
I got tired of those bombastic melodramatics well before Rose was gone. It was all too emotionally manipulative.
 
My opinions also changed. Rose use to be my favorite character,period Tennant was my favorite Doctor. Now Matt Smith and the Ponds kind of hold that place for me. I think I also prefer Missy over the Simms version of The Master.

Jason

The degree to which Missy is a better Master than Simms is staggering. Because I really liked Simms, but man were his episodes huge misses despite his performance. One of Moffat's best contributions is Missy and giving us Simms in a "classic" Master role.
 
The degree to which Missy is a better Master than Simms is staggering. Because I really liked Simms, but man were his episodes huge misses despite his performance. One of Moffat's best contributions is Missy and giving us Simms in a "classic" Master role.

For me "Sound of Drums" was Simms' best episode. It was creepy seeing the Master essentially take over Earth though mind control. And Simms was a perfect opposite to Tennant, bringing a similar energy to the role while being his evil opposite. Unfortunately, "The End of Time" is where they went too far with Simms in my opinion. The scene where the Master has just been brought back and his body was fading in and out and he is starving and eating like an animal felt really weird to me. And his performance became more over the top. I do wish we had gotten more of Jacobi's Master. He could have been amazing. "World Enough and Time" and "The Doctor Falls" were fantastic because we got 2 great performances from the Master in the same episode. We got a more classic Master in Simms AND Missy together, plus a fantastic performance by Capaldi.
 
That's like NOT most of Doctor Who. Most of Doctor Who has been run away from the monster! Except for the "Look at me, I'm riding a dinosaur!" or the "Ooo, you plot device, I can't figure you out! Sure, I travel in space and time, but, that couldn't be it, you impossible plot device you!"

Ah, but the questin was "what do you want?" not "who, are you?".

You have accurately answered the latter, I took care of the former....and got in a B5 reference.

My work here is complete.
 
For me "Sound of Drums" was Simms' best episode. It was creepy seeing the Master essentially take over Earth though mind control. And Simms was a perfect opposite to Tennant, bringing a similar energy to the role while being his evil opposite. Unfortunately, "The End of Time" is where they went too far with Simms in my opinion. The scene where the Master has just been brought back and his body was fading in and out and he is starving and eating like an animal felt really weird to me. And his performance became more over the top. I do wish we had gotten more of Jacobi's Master. He could have been amazing. "World Enough and Time" and "The Doctor Falls" were fantastic because we got 2 great performances from the Master in the same episode. We got a more classic Master in Simms AND Missy together, plus a fantastic performance by Capaldi.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I very much like Simms and I do really like the majority of Last of the Time Lords/Sound of Drums. But there are some weird RTDisms in there that really keep me from loving it. He's great in The End of Time but that episode is just strange.


Michelle Gomez is also an amazing performer.
Correct! 100%.
 
Enjoyable, but the second episode in a row that ended with some loose ends. Last week it was, "Well, what about all the giant spiders crawling around in Sheffield??" and this week....I guess we can assume they will eventually find some way back to the junkyard planet and the TARDIS? (And that was meant to be the same junk planet we saw in "The Doctor's Wife," right?)

Michelle Gomez is also an amazing performer.
Agreed! I've been enjoying her role on the new "Sabrina" series on Netflix too.
 
I don't see why it would be. The Doctor notes that they're in a "junk galaxy" and that they may be on the wrong one for the particular material she's looking for.
Plus, the one in "The Doctor's Wife" was in a pocket universe that was very hard for The Doctor get to and only tried because of its connection with the communication cube that was sent to him. Also, deleting parts of the TARDIS. Doesn't seem at all likely that The Doctor would go back there for a spare part, especially after what House did to past Time Lords.
 
5 episodes in I am liking this series more then any past series aside from a few Capaldi episodes which are my treasures.
 
Doctor Who 11.05 'The Tsuranga Conundrum' review
The fifth episode of series 11. Certainly an interesting episode. A cavalcade of interesting ideas, albeit with some caveats. The junkyard planet (or a cluster of junkyard planets?) is an idea I would like to see explored further. Not sure what the Doctor was looking for, but it's a great set up. I can also see why there would be booby traps in such a place. The sonic mine was also a good idea. That the Doctor was willing to sacrifice herself to protect her companions is consistent with the characterisation of her earlier selves.
The introduction to the characters on the Tsuranga was quite good. Especially Astos' dissuading the Doctor from being selfish in re-directing the ship back to the junkyard planet. The Doctor's realisation of her selfishness was done well. The reveal of each character was also done well. (Even Joss. Not sure what to make of his story, but the reassurance by Ryan that he can be a good father was a good addition.) The plot line with the General Pilot and her engineer brother was also good, although the android consort was just, there.
Mabli's growth as she deals with having the responsibility of looking after the ship and the patients aboard her was done rather well also. But any good storytelling has a problem to deal with. The Pting was certainly a problem! If rather reminiscent of a Gremlin (one movie I haven't watched, but am familiar with the concept of). (But not of Nibbler, despite my being a fan of Futurama's early seasons, nor Stitch, having seen Lilo and Stitch a few times.) It's existence and the threat it presented were presented rather well.
Then there is the self destruct on the ship, being activated if there is a threat detected (like say, a Pting...) This is also presented in a believable way, although it is a little predictable. However, the Doctor being enthusiastic about the iCERN Antimatter Drive was a rather nice touch, another glimpse into how she is developing as a character distinct from her earlier selves. A very good episode. 8.5/10.
 
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