The truth about Discovery and the Prime universe.
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It's the old thing; if the show has great writing, acting and characters, most people won't give two hoots about any inconsistencies in the make up, tech, look or feel from the other series. If they stink though, it'll be just another reason to tear the show apart.
You know, I got to admit, the kind of extreme futurism sci-fi with computerized clothing operated by brain chips really does not interest me at all.
I remember when cellphones still had buttons. People could send text messages with their phone in their pocket. With a touch screen you can't do that. Buttons allow a physical sense of the location of controls that doesn't require you to stare at them.
Plus I'm willing to bet that civilian technology is always going to look more "futuristic" than government space and military hardware. So comparing the Enterprise controls to your cozy home computer system isn't an accurate comparison. Your home computer doesn't regulate an anti-matter reactor or control a million tons of starship in the harsh environment of space.
Want an easy way to explain why there are buttons on a starship rather than touchscreens? Throw in a naturally blind* alien crew member. Boom. Done. No technobabble needed.
*meaning the species is normally blind i.e. no eyes.
Plus I'm willing to bet that civilian technology is always going to look more "futuristic" than government space and military hardware. So comparing the Enterprise controls to your cozy home computer system isn't an accurate comparison. Your home computer doesn't regulate an anti-matter reactor or control a million tons of starship in the harsh environment of space.
Want an easy way to explain why there are buttons on a starship rather than touchscreens? Throw in a naturally blind* alien crew member. Boom. Done. No technobabble needed.
*meaning the species is normally blind i.e. no eyes.
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I doubt the military is interested in art deco design.
The only reason the old shows did things the way they did them, was because they were making guesses about how the current technology could advance.
If Discover wants to be taken seriously as modern sci-fi then it needs to do the same thing for today's technology, not the technology of 50 years ago, or 30 years ago.
If Discover wants to be taken seriously as modern sci-fi then it needs to do the same thing for today's technology, not the technology of 50 years ago, or 30 years ago.
I could certainly imagine a plausible future where they would. Military gear being plain and utilitarian is a pretty recent trend and there is no reason to imagine that it couldn't change. Old sailing ships had a lot of beautiful woodwork, armours and weapons used to be decorated etc.
There are certain conceipts of the genre that audiences will accept because they are now so common as to be near universal. FTL travel, artificial gravity, everyone speaks English, teleportation, manned deep space exploration. You don't even have to explain these, they are hand waved in with the territory. What audiences are not expecting is computer and communication technology which looks out of date already, miniskirts and beehives, or any of the other trappings of a show made in the late sixties.
We are going round and round in circles. The simple fact is that Discovery will, 100% certainly, be made for a modern audience with modern expectations of a futuristic sci-fi show, because the producers have already told us as much and it is pretty clear from the reel released last week. Whether any one of us likes or dislikes it will remain to be seen but The Cage in hi def it will not be.
We are going round and round in circles. The simple fact is that Discovery will, 100% certainly, be made for a modern audience with modern expectations of a futuristic sci-fi show, because the producers have already told us as much and it is pretty clear from the reel released last week. Whether any one of us likes or dislikes it will remain to be seen but The Cage in hi def it will not be.
Or how about this thing weird thing with physical buttons and no touchscreen! (Or a sceen of any kind, for that matter) Modern audiences would never accept it as it doesn't look like a iPhone!
(I know, it's a picture of a low quality replica, I couldn't find a good picture of the actual prop.)
So...why are you trying, then, to defend outdated design using words like "plausible?"
In this context 60's aesthetic is just as plausible as 2010's aesthetic. Real future will look like neither (probably.)So...why are you trying, then, to defend outdated design using words like "plausible?"
People are going to be watching this show on their tablets and smart phones. They aren't going to be too happy seeing something from the Flash Gordon era.
The Kelvin universe had a sense of humour about props making them both more realistic and at the same sillier than the original because no one was ever going to get a good look at them, they were toys for the actors.
The show is going to have to invest in more grounded props for a several year long run, less messing about and more interactive devices that wow the audience by being far more advanced than any gadget they're watching it on.
The Kelvin universe had a sense of humour about props making them both more realistic and at the same sillier than the original because no one was ever going to get a good look at them, they were toys for the actors.
The show is going to have to invest in more grounded props for a several year long run, less messing about and more interactive devices that wow the audience by being far more advanced than any gadget they're watching it on.
I didn't say "realistic", I said based off of modern technology.
Each series has used what was then modern technology as the basis for what it's future tech looked like, they are simply going to do the same thing in Discovery.
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