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The Tragedy of Spock Prime

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The Tragedy of Spock Prime

Trek rebooted, re-imagined, and re-invigorated! Phenomenal cast, awesome effects, and most importantly it felt like Star Trek---and looked like the Star Trek we've always imagined, dreamed of, and hoped for. So in a nearly (against all odds) perfect film... What went wrong?

Short answer: The villain.

Long answer: The Plot. A thin plot which robbed a seemingly wonderful villain of potential and motivation.

Even longer answer: Spock Prime. A strange reluctance on the part of writers Kurtzman and Orci to make the necessary choices with the character of Nimoy-portrayed Spock, to allow for a rich and meaningful plot, which in turn would provide depth and motivation to their villain, Nero.

Let’s take a closer look.

In both the Countdown prequel comic book mini-series and the film, the movie’s villain Nero is portrayed as hellbent on avenging the destruction of his planet Romulus, the loss of his culture, and the deaths of his wife and his unborn child upon Spock... a man who did everything humanly/Vulcanly possible to prevent that destruction. Strange.

The dilemma here lies primarily with Nero's motivation, or lack thereof. Simply put: the plot necessitated that Nero be obsessed with revenging himself upon Spock... and yet Spock did nothing whatsoever to instigate that obsession.

The mechanics of this problem (let’s think behind-the-scenes for a moment, shall we?) seem to be that, for whatever reason, the writers were simply unwilling (or unable?) to actually allow Spock Prime to do anything wrong. To make a single mistake. In other words to be human (as opposed to acting human, which he did wonderfully). Unwilling to allow him a tragic flaw, writers Kurtzman and Orci painted themselves into a plotting corner and created for themselves a writers' paradox: In keeping Spock Prime flawless and sacred, they still needed something absolutely dire for which to blame him.

For whatever reason (and I'd be very interested in knowing how this was bantered about the writing table...), they simply refused to allow Spock Prime to make a single bad choice, error in judgment, or even to make a hard (but right) judgment call (for example, placing Spock in the "no win" situation of having to choose between saving Romulus or the Federation, or even saving Romulus or the rest of the galaxy... Giving Spock a taste of his own Kobyashi Maru as he’s forced to allow Romulus to die for the greater good... (i.e., needs of the many...) would surely have played well against the Kobyashi Maru themes of young Kirk/Spock elsewhere in the film.

In not allowing there to be any shadow of doubt cast upon Spock Prime's role in the unfolding events that led up to the movie, we were robbed of an interesting and believable "villain." And also of a provoking story.

While I think the film was absolutely phenomenal in almost every respect (I can’t say enough good stuff about it!) the one area it was surely lacking was in the plot---and the reasons are purely due to the restrictions that were placed upon (or that the writers placed upon themselves) the treatment of Spock Prime. Their unwillingness to treat him with depth, as a multifaceted character.

How much more intriguing, tragic, and provoking would the story have been had they allowed Spock to make a mistake (or the tough judgment call) that resulted in the destruction of Romulus? This would have justified Nero's motivations to be sure... and it would certainly have made Spock Prime's situation far more heart-wrenching and tragic, as we discover him in isolation on the frozen planet, living with the guilt and ramifications of his actions---having sacrificed the very planet that he struggled to Unify with Vulcan and the Federation---especially, when (as the course of the film plays out and the galaxy has been saved) Spock's future mistakes are now justified, but at an awesome price: the destruction of Vulcan. Now, the new chapter of Spock's life, helping to rebuild the Vulcan society, would have an even deeper, even more personal and tragic poignancy...

How much more intriguing would it have been, if Captain Pike, young Kirk and Spock, et al, had not only reason to question Nero’s motives, but old Spock’s motives as well? This old Vulcan from the future, appearing out of nowhere in the midst of Apocalypse---who could trust him? What mystery and ethical intrigue might have been added to the story with the inclusion of having our heroes not sure of they should align themselves with Spock Prime or try him for crimes against humanity? Wondering if indeed Nero had a legitimate case against the aging Vulcan? If we, the audience, were forced to second-guess and wonder at Spock’s true motivations? I’ll go out on a limb: Since the writers decided to barely include a bare-bones backstory as to how and why Nero and Spock ended up in the past, how would the movie have felt if, in the end, we were never entirely sure who was right and who was wrong? Spock or Nero? Both or neither? Shades of gray…

Spock is not a superhero. He is not (or should not be) flawless. As an aging Jim Kirk will one day lament, "Of all the souls I've encountered in my travels, his was the most... human."

If only the writers had paid as much loving attention, care and willingness to allow imperfection (after all, it's our flaws, our mistakes, our tragedies which make us interesting) to Spock Prime as they did to young Spock, and every other aspect of the film... we would've had a story that was truly... fascinating.

Just my two cents..., ;)
 
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The Tragedy of Spock Prime
The main problem here is with Nero's motivation, or lack thereof (and reading other reviews, I think that many would agree). Simply put: the plot necessitated that Nero be obsessed with revenging himself upon Spock... and yet Spock did nothing whatsoever to instigate that obsession.
I haven't read your entire post, but this I do have to point out:

Nero had every reason to want revenge on Spock, broken a man as he was.

Think about it: Spock warns the Romulan Council the Hobus star is exploding. They don't believe him. Nero does. Nero probably wanted to save his family (this is conjecture), but, Spock promised him he would prevent the catastrophe.

So, no, Spock didn't make a mistake. Neither is he infallible. However, Spock did promise Nero that his family would be save. He promised. And right after Nero believes Spock, he sees Romulus destroyed because Spock failed to get there in time.

Together with the destruction of his home planet, I can think of no greater 'betrayal' from Nero's point of view. He trusted Spock with the safety of his family, and now he's lost everything he ever cared about.

No wonder he's pissed off. :D
 
Gawd I hate referring to Nimoy as Spock Prime...he's not a goddamned transformer! :scream:

Carry on...
 
Nero probably wanted to save his family (this is conjecture), but, Spock promised him he would prevent the catastrophe.
Maybe if Nero had shown a little initiative and brought his wife aboard ship with him (just in case) he wouldn't have to blame others for his lack of foresight.

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Nero probably wanted to save his family (this is conjecture), but, Spock promised him he would prevent the catastrophe.
Maybe if Nero had shown a little initiative and brought his wife aboard ship with him (just in case) he wouldn't have to blame others for his lack of foresight.

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Oh goody... Then he would just have to cope with a few billion dead fellow Romulans and a planet reduced to dust.
Nothing to be upset about I suppose...
 
Since Spock was already so dedicated to "reunification" it would have made it a very difficult decision for him to have to sacrifice Romulus for the greater good... and then after Vulcan was destroyed he would have had the guilt of having to let Romulus be destroyed AND watch Vulcan be destroyed... Hmm...
 
I haven't read your entire post, but this I do have to point out:

Nero had every reason to want revenge on Spock, broken a man as he was.

Think about it: Spock warns the Romulan Council the Hobus star is exploding. They don't believe him. Nero does. Nero probably wanted to save his family (this is conjecture), but, Spock promised him he would prevent the catastrophe. ...No wonder he's pissed off. :D

Not sure that I agree. Seems a lot like blaming the rescue workers for families lost in 9/11...
 
Nero had every reason to want revenge on Spock, broken a man as he was.

Think about it: Spock warns the Romulan Council the Hobus star is exploding. They don't believe him. Nero does. Nero probably wanted to save his family (this is conjecture), but, Spock promised him he would prevent the catastrophe.

So, no, Spock didn't make a mistake. Neither is he infallible. However, Spock did promise Nero that his family would be save. He promised. And right after Nero believes Spock, he sees Romulus destroyed because Spock failed to get there in time.

Together with the destruction of his home planet, I can think of no greater 'betrayal' from Nero's point of view. He trusted Spock with the safety of his family, and now he's lost everything he ever cared about.

No wonder he's pissed off. :D

We don't see any of that in the movie though.

Nero is basically just a cardboard cutout villain, no better than Shinzon. Hey, they've both got the angry and bald thing going on. And both don't know how to appropriately apply their vengeance. Why does anyone who loses a loved one or endures some torture end up wanting to destroy Earth?
 
Why are you trying to apply logic and rational thinking to Nero's actions and motivations when they're clearly meant to be IRRATIONAL?
 
Not sure that I agree. Seems a lot like blaming the rescue workers for families lost in 9/11...
Who says Nero has to be rational? If Earth suddenly got destroyed for a hyperspace bypass, I'm sure you and I wouldn't be as rational as Dent. Perhaps after we thought things through, yes, but not before that.

And we all know how emotive Romulans are. :D
 
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