The TMP Refit....questions/discussion.
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Just canon ramblings of sorts, based on the way the TMP ships and other vessels moved slower than Star Trek on TV; I had a speculation between the last episode of Star Trek in chronological order, Stardate: 5943.7 "All of our Yesterdays" and TMP stardate: 7414, there was some sort of Quadrant technological collapse. TMP Enterprise had technical issues with the transporter, warp drive and engineering now require hazard suits; everything about the movie series felt clunky and required a lot of unnecessary working parts for the ships to run.
On Star Trek, the ships appeared state of the art and everything were in working order, but finally in TUC it appeared this dark time had passed since starships moved like starships again, and no transporter issues.
Of course the ships moving slow was due to the pioneering process in SFX but we're talking in universe canon ramblings. Just ramblings.
Going back to the issue of the Reliant being around in TOS: I personally always suspected that she initially looked halfway between the two eras, similar to how the PhaseII Enterprise would have done if it had been realised on screen. So, she'd have similar proportions to those in TWOK, but with simplified TMP nacelles, no rollbar, TOS-esque hull plating, and likely a bridge module indentical to the Soyuz. All this would represent the first tentative steps towards a Fleetwide upgrade, the culmination of which would have been the Enterprise refit.
Then later on, probably not too long before TWOK, Reliant would have seen her first partial refit, bringing her fully up to date again -- equivalent to the refit that Enterprise herself would have seen between say the April-Pike or Pike-Kirk eras. And at this point she would have also received the torpedo/phaser rollbar addition.
YMMV, of course.
Then later on, probably not too long before TWOK, Reliant would have seen her first partial refit, bringing her fully up to date again -- equivalent to the refit that Enterprise herself would have seen between say the April-Pike or Pike-Kirk eras. And at this point she would have also received the torpedo/phaser rollbar addition.
YMMV, of course.
Wouldn't it make sense to prioritise the "quick wins" and get those ships out of dock and back into space asap? No point having a ship needing a few straightforward repairs clogging up a berth longer than necessary. The 11% NCC-1700 could be undergoing a long-term refit.
Nice line drawings here
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/slade.php
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/slade.php
In my head the original enterprise has been destroyed and they build a new one. TMP Enterprise is the real Ent-A
Why?
I'm not sure if he is still around, but I believe it was Shaw that originally posited the IMO very useful idea that the "hull pressure compt's" first mentioned in a TOS bridge diagram in fact alluded to the assembly methodology for the whole ship.
To be brief, much like modern oceangoing ships, the Enterprise was built of many separate assemblies that were fitted together and skinned to make a complete starship. The result was that the vessel had double hulls between many hull sections. Presumably this practice had fallen by the wayside by the TNG era, given presumed advancements in structural integrity fields and the like. (The TNG TM describes the Enterprise-D hull as "hollow" and "birdlike yet strong.")
Anyway, as a result, the original Enterprise could have been dismantled into her separate hull compartments for the rebuild. Each compartment could have been rebuilt to a different proportion, making for a totally new ship when they were put back together.
To be brief, much like modern oceangoing ships, the Enterprise was built of many separate assemblies that were fitted together and skinned to make a complete starship. The result was that the vessel had double hulls between many hull sections. Presumably this practice had fallen by the wayside by the TNG era, given presumed advancements in structural integrity fields and the like. (The TNG TM describes the Enterprise-D hull as "hollow" and "birdlike yet strong.")
Anyway, as a result, the original Enterprise could have been dismantled into her separate hull compartments for the rebuild. Each compartment could have been rebuilt to a different proportion, making for a totally new ship when they were put back together.
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