The Temporal Cold War in Enterprise and franchise continuity
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Then it's a good thing I didn't make such so broad a claim.
I can't remember anything in DIS to indicate that Klingons were fiddling with genetic engineering either. However, I do mentally reconcile the differences between Klingon makeup in DIS and Klingon makeup in the other shows by assuming the Klingons on DIS represent another consequence of an attempt to alter the Augment Virus to restore the pre-ENT status quot that blew up in their faces. If the Empire was largely dealing with the fallout from the Augment Virus and the consequences of yet another mutation producing the DIS Klingons, then that goes some way towards explaining why the Empire had so little contact with the Federation during the period between 2155 and 2256.
The last thing Star Trek needs is Clint Eastwood's toxic masculinity bullshit.
Cool. Let's go home have cookies and Star Trek.
Trek broke continuity when Kirk changed his middle name from R to T and changed the space service he worked for from UESPA to Starfleet
Did those differences occur before or after "City on the Edge of Forever"?
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Trek's continuity is more like guidelines than actual rules.
Remember when the Klingons were members of the Federation in early TNG?
I thought the same thing as a Legion of Super Heroes fan.
As far as I know, they never said he didn't have a foster sister on TOS.
A previously unmentioned foster sister is actually extremely in character for Spock. Even with Kirk and Bones he never mentioned his half brother, his fiance,...they didn't know his parents were his parents when they met them...
Spock was embarrassed he had a sex drive....the guy needs therapy
Eh. I'm fine with the idea that the Constitution class was a long-lived class that was so successful it had at least three major refits and four separate configurations across its lifespan.
You can't reconcile Discovery visually with TOS. "Q&A" is set before "The Cage" but features the Disco version of the ship etc.
As far as I'm concerned, from 2017 onwards Trek canon has swapped out classic TOS for their rebooted version with modern looks and TNG-era technology but more-or-less (less in the case of ENT's "Affliction" and "Divergence") kept the rest of the franchise.
As far as I'm concerned TOS was an in universe dramatic recreation of Kirk's published mission logs.
Meh, I'm okay nullifying the exterior visual effects sequences of "The Cage." That episode is full of discontinuities with later Star Trek anyway -- the reference to the "time barrier" being broken after the Columbia crashed on Talos IV, Pike being "not used" to having any woman on the bridge other than Una in the mid-2250s, the use of lasers instead of phasers or phase canons, etc. I'm fine with attributing its depiction of the Enterprise to the same narrative pretend-it's-not-there as all of those and as "Where No Man Has Gone Before"'s reference to James R. Kirk.
That's a perfectly fair interpretation. Mine is that the Enterprise was launched in its DIS configuration, then subsequently refit into its TOS configuration, and then it was refit into its TMP configuration.
Before. Though City had no Stardate given, by production order, it was #28 and the switch to the Federation and Starfleet was finalized by A Taste of Armageddon, production order #24. "Starfleet" was first used in Court Martial (#15) and commonly used thereafter even with reference to UESPA instead of the Federation. Last reference of the UESPA was in Tomorrow is Yesterday (#21). If this really means anything once time travel is involved...Did those differences occur before or after "City on the Edge of Forever"?
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