News The Summer of Mark Hamill's Discontent

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  1. Infern0

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    No I'm pointing out that's the real reason this is your favourite star wars, and the real reason you defend it, because it's the feminist one

    Remove those aspects but leave 95% of the movie the same and you wouldn't care less about it.

    You are so toxic it's unreal
     
  2. Awesome Possum

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    That's not why I liked the movie. I liked seeing the depiction of Luke as the real man behind the reason realizing the true power of his legend and using it to save the Resistance, make Kylo Ren a mockery in front of his new Empire and inspiring galaxy to be like him. I've mentioned this before, but you're interested in actual discussions just the same "TLJ sucks because girls" circlejerk. It may not be what I thought I wanted, but it turned out to be more interesting and personal than CG Luke kicking ass.
     
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  3. Infern0

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    I am a girl

    Well I'm a female not a feminazi

    That's da difference between you and me
     
  4. Ithekro

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    I could care less about any feminist angle. I enjoyed the movie.
     
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  5. Awesome Possum

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    What does that have to do with anything? You can't even discuss the movie. You have to make it about something political. Are you even real?
     
  6. Refuge

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    Yeah I agree here. I was so disappointed with TLJ. I waited all of TFA to see Luke for five seconds at the end and then TLJ trashed him. In my opinion.
     
  7. Agony_Boothb

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    How about you as a moderator, take it down a notch with the borderline personal insults towards someone who has a different opinion than you? I often agree with you AP but i often think you also get way too worked up over this shit.
     
  8. Awesome Possum

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    It goes both ways.
     
  9. Agony_Boothb

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    Me too, I really didn't like what was done with Luke. In fact there are so many things I dislike about this film. Don't get me started on the chase sequence.
     
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  10. Agony_Boothb

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    If you're a moderator, no it doesn't. Set an example for crying out loud.
     
  11. Awesome Possum

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    Why don’t you get back on topic.
     
  12. Ithekro

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    Considering the start of this was a picked post from March, my guess is someone was trying to pick a fight for a reaction.
     
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  13. Agony_Boothb

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    Good to see you can moderate when it's convenient for you to do so
     
  14. USS Firefly

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    Only a few people of the Empire and the Resistance saw what Luke did, so I don't think that the whole Galaxy will hear about or believe it
     
  15. Ithekro

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    Eight months more. Well maybe less, depending on what plot we get out of the trailer some months from now.

    It got to Canto Bight where the underclass knows of it. That's a long ways from Crait.
     
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  16. Awesome Possum

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    They literally show it in the movie. The stable kid from Canto is shown describing it in detail using little figurines of Luke and an AT-AT, he’s then shown using Force powers implying that a whole generation is going to grow up with Luke as hero who they can be like.
     
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  17. Tosk

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    I really wish it had been Ackbar. He deserved better than a death where you don't even realize it happened until minutes later.

    As far as the droid (or autopilot thing) goes, I agree from a logical point of view, but not a dramatic one. If I had to change the scene but keep it as much alike the finished film as possible, it would go like this...

    They are all piling onto the escape pods, the plan is to fly off in the shadow of the main ship so as to avoid detection. They mean to leave the ship just running straight ahead and for everyone to leave.

    The ship is massively rocked by the barrage of blaster fire they've been raining down on the for (days?) ages. The bay is compromised and the last pod has to leave immediately. Ackbar or Holdo are too far from the pod to make it before it is lost so they activate the launch and stay behind. They duck out of the bay just as it loses integrity, the pod also just making it.

    Some of the blaster shots start peppering the pods, so Ackbar-Holdo double-times it to the bridge, laying the ship into a curving turn to better protect them. Only as it comes about do they (we read it on their face) decide to take 'er in. The tragic hero music plays as they sadly initiate the jump. The ship is breaking up around them, the bow on fire and the First Order cease fire when it's clear that the fight is done. The jump is a million to one shot and the ship breaks up even as it jumps, spraying lightspeed debris over the entire fleet.

    It's far from original, but I can imagine it being quite a thrilling moment as opposed to Holdo saying she had to stay behind to pilot the cruiser and then showing her mostly just standing in the middle of the room doing nothing. And yeah yeah...I'm not much of a writer, I know that. :)
     
  18. Awesome Possum

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    They used Holdo because of her scenes with Poe as a constrast to him losing the bombers at the beginning. Poe risked others while disobeying a military chain of command who are more concerned with winning a war than a battle. Her sacrifice dealt a larger blow to the First Order and gave the Resistance time to escape. Poe’s realization of this is what takes him from soldier to a leader, so when Luke is facing the First Order he sees that Luke is being a distraction for them and he leads them out of the cave.

    You could do that with Akbar, but he’d need that same with Poe because it’s what’s driving his character.

    It would be silly, I’d still be all in, but it would be silly to see a talking catfish chew someone out.
     
  19. USS Firefly

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    Then I stand correct, I has been a while since I saw the movie
     
  20. Spot261

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    It's spelt "the".
     
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