No, I definitely think they implied the Kriosians were a different species entirely.
The strange lack of auxiliaries in ST empires
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No, I definitely think they implied the Kriosians were a different species entirely.
The Federation/Starfleet is portrayed as good, inclusive and diverse. The Cardassians and the Romulans are the pinnacle of racist arrogance. While we know that the Romulans have at least 100 conquered worlds, do you think that 1) they would allow "lesser species" aboard their warships or 2)arm them? Klingons don't take prisoners. Well, it's likely that they have enslaved populations, but I wouldn't place money on them allowing conquered subjects to fight, as Enterprise made it clear that they have a social system like that of feudal Japan, where only the warrior class gets to fight.
In the FASA role playing games, they put forward the idea that the Klingons largely didn't run their own ships. The "enlisted crew" were mostly non Klingons, multiple servitor races, who handled the day to day care and maintenance. Ethnic and racial Klingons were the officers.
A Human historical tie-in, in the Roman Empire when the Roman conquered a new people, those people became Roman citizens. In the later years of the Empire, less than ten percent of the Roman military were "Italians."
A Human historical tie-in, in the Roman Empire when the Roman conquered a new people, those people became Roman citizens. In the later years of the Empire, less than ten percent of the Roman military were "Italians."
The Klingons were subjugated by the Hurq until they rebelled and seized their technology. Learning that lesson, perhaps the Klingons don't allow their subject member worlds access to technology beyond what they need to provide the resources necessary to keep the Empire afloat.
The classic novel The Final Reflection goes into detail about Klingon slaves. It was written by (John) Mike Ford, who co-wrote the FASA stuff.
IIRC, Vulcan slaves had the telepathic centres of their brains removed.
IIRC, Vulcan slaves had the telepathic centres of their brains removed.
Imperial regimes have sometimes referred to territories they conquer as colonies, hence "colonialism". There might also be a number of reasons the Klingons would send non-Klingon settlers:
- Krios could be a mining planet or an agricultural world that uses non-Klingon labor
- The surface of Krios could be dangerous to Klingons in some way, therefore they sent non-Klingons who could survive on the planet's surface to terraform the planet to suit Klingon preferences.
Kriosians also appeared in the ENT episode Precious Cargo
At least initially, the British, French and Spanish colonies in North America had native populations that far out numbers the European colonists. Kriosians may have been indigenous to the planet, which the Klingons at some point conquered.
The planet's surface was simply covered in tribbles.
Why, there are lots of subjugated nations out there! The Gorn are one. They were lost to the Klingons not long after first contact on Cestus III. It was a difficult time for the galaxy, and the rising tensions between the Federation and the Klingons hurt many bystanders. The Federation managed to save a part of their people on Cestus, but the two-state solution has never sat well with the Klingons.
Similarly, the Jarada are now subjects of the Romulan Star Empire - "We, are back," indeed.
The Miradorn belonged to the Cardassian Union in an Austria-Hungry-like alliance until they pulled out. An action that precipitated the Union consolidating its borders and leaving Bajor as well. Bajor was a bit too close to the Cardassian home system, but both they and the Miradorn agreed that it be part of the neutral zone along their borders. Didn't last long, with the discovery of the Wormhole, but then the Miradorn were okay with their once allies the Cardassians trying to lay claim to it more than the blasted Federation. They would work the economic front to push things toward their favor. The wretched Ferengi were doing rather well thusly.
This has been Arpy's creativity corner.
Similarly, the Jarada are now subjects of the Romulan Star Empire - "We, are back," indeed.
The Miradorn belonged to the Cardassian Union in an Austria-Hungry-like alliance until they pulled out. An action that precipitated the Union consolidating its borders and leaving Bajor as well. Bajor was a bit too close to the Cardassian home system, but both they and the Miradorn agreed that it be part of the neutral zone along their borders. Didn't last long, with the discovery of the Wormhole, but then the Miradorn were okay with their once allies the Cardassians trying to lay claim to it more than the blasted Federation. They would work the economic front to push things toward their favor. The wretched Ferengi were doing rather well thusly.
This has been Arpy's creativity corner.
Humans from Earth and called Earthlings, but not race specific. But yeah, most of the others we've seen are one race that is named after the planet... mostly. Cardassians are from Cardassia. Romulans are from Romulus. The Breen are from Breen. The Vulcans are from Vulcan. The Klingons are from... Kronos. There are some variations. We see some Klingons with slightly different skin color and ridge patterns.
But the Federation is considered a large scale organization with no specific homeworld, unless headquarters is supposed to be on Earth.
Nah. The problem with that idea is that in one of the DS9 episodes, Martok said that only those who were of noble birth could be an officer. He was born to a farmer (or something like that), and had to show great service in combat before someone was willing to make him an officer.
^^^ Oh, I don't know about that, noble born, upper class and the aristocracy can be a ethnicity, a people with a common ancestry and heritage, who share a distinctive culture.
Klingon social system would seem on the surface to be like the Hindu Kshatriya or the medieval European Knights. The Kshatriya caste were the rulers and the warriors, second only to the priest caste. With the European system, while it was very ridged, if someone (a commoner) were to distinguish themselves in battle, they could rise up into the aristocracy. Which did provide for a small measure of social mobility, as was the case with Martok.. If Worf's parents hadn't been killed, Worf likely would have been a warrior in the Klingon military forces, he was of the correct ethnicity and the correct race, the doors would have swung open for him without effort.
And as the elder son, his place in the aristocracy would have been secure as well.
Klingon social system would seem on the surface to be like the Hindu Kshatriya or the medieval European Knights. The Kshatriya caste were the rulers and the warriors, second only to the priest caste. With the European system, while it was very ridged, if someone (a commoner) were to distinguish themselves in battle, they could rise up into the aristocracy. Which did provide for a small measure of social mobility, as was the case with Martok.. If Worf's parents hadn't been killed, Worf likely would have been a warrior in the Klingon military forces, he was of the correct ethnicity and the correct race, the doors would have swung open for him without effort.
And as the elder son, his place in the aristocracy would have been secure as well.
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