Spoilers The Starfleet Museum

[Tomalak]

And yet, there's a statue of Chang in the Hall of Warriors. Go figure.

They built that after they gave away the ship!

Or it's just on loan at the Starfleet Museum. Museums exchange and loan things all the time.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, yeah, I can understand the ship being in *a* museum. Just not Starfleet's!

I mean, the only Starfleet personnel ever to set foot on Kronos One were prisoners...

I believe the recognition of the first step towards peace might have something to do with this.

 

[Captain_Amasov]

Kronos One is apparently on loan from the Empire.

EDIT: The tweet - https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1641153099564826625

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

So this would mean Starfleet built two Miranda class ships with the same name, rather than the original USS Saratoga being refit into the one Sisko served on? It certainly wouldn't be the wackiest Trek ship idea, but the refit idea makes far more sense to me than the other option.

I know! Novel idea, I wish we'd hear about more ships like that!

And in today's air force museums, you have examples of MiGs that the US captured / recovered and never returned after the given conflict was over. Allied WWII aircraft are preserved today in Russia (though some of those were actually given to them). Also there's stuff like the USS Pueblo on display in Pyongyang.

Mark

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Kronos One is apparently on loan from the Empire.

I'm down with that.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

In case anyone's curious, I added another set of ships scaled to the lengths given in that twitter thread:

That's a huge Saratoga!

Are the ships floating outside the ring a "Holographic Projection" where as the real hulls are hidden inside the StarBase and moored down so people can visit and tour the insides?

 

[Nate]

Lexington still has a registry of 61832 on startrek.com. I’m sticking with that just because I like it better, lol.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

Well, Dave Blass did answer a question. The refit Constitution-class is the Constitution II-class.

 

[Tomalak]

Noooo it's Enterprise Class!

 

[Spike730]

I find this nomenclature needlessly confusing. This is especially true for the Excelsior II class when the original Excelsior class is still in service.

 

[Dukhat]

I found that naming a Duderstadt class ship the Intrepid was silly as well, since there’s a whole Intrepid class of starships that are relatively contemporary to the Duderstadt class. At least when they named a new California class ship the Merced, the older Merced class was probably out of production. Unless of course the Intrepid class is also out of production by 2401, but that seems unlikely to me.

 

[Racefuel]

I find this nomenclature needlessly confusing. This is especially true for the Excelsior II class when the original Excelsior class is still in service.

There's no indication the OG Excelsiors are still around in 2399/2401. The last canon appearance for them is I think in Lower Decks, so 2381-2382..roughly twenty years before Picard S1/S2

 

[Spike730]

True. But going by the late 23rd century look (except nacelles) and the mid 24th century registries of the Excelsior II class they should've been built around the same time as original Excelsior USS Hood NCC-42296.

Boy, Voyager is way too big compared to Excelsior.

 

[DEWLine]

That's what it had in TNG (on a barely readable computer screen).
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Lexington_(NCC-30405)

Maybe that Nebula should have an "A" or a "B" after its number?

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

There's no indication the OG Excelsiors are still around in 2399/2401. The last canon appearance for them is I think in Lower Decks, so 2381-2382..roughly twenty years before Picard S1/S2

I'd also suggest that it's possible but not entirely certain (you could argue that this has been retconed) that it should actually be at least Excelsior III-class not Excelsior II as Measure of a Man and Interface (TNG) also mention a USS Excelsior NCC-21445.

 

[DEWLine]

I really wish the Picard art department and the Strange New Worlds art department would actually communicate with eachother..... Maybe it's a L.A. vs Toronto "thing".

Hopefully not...?

 

[Tuskin38]

I really wish the Picard art department and the Strange New Worlds art department would actually communicate with eachother..... Maybe it's a L.A. vs Toronto "thing".

They do, we see the Picard Season 1 Bird of Prey in SNW. But they're not forced to use each other's designs.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Or the Klingons don't feel sentimental about starships.

Once the ship is retired:

[HOWWWLLLLL!] "It is only an empty shell now. Please treat it as such."

 

[Tuskin38]

Maybe that Nebula should have an "A" or a "B" after its number?

no

 

[Dukhat]

I'd also suggest that it's possible but not entirely certain (you could argue that this has been retconed) that it should actually be at least Excelsior III-class not Excelsior II as Measure of a Man and Interface (TNG) also mention a USS Excelsior NCC-21445.

Well for all we know the Excelsior NCC-21445 could have been a ship of an unknown class, like the Hokule’a.