The Star Trek iceberg

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  1. The Wormhole

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    And then there's the mysterious "shuttlebay 2" that gets mentioned frequently on Voyager despite the fact Voyager clearly only has one shuttlebay. My favorite mention of this comes in Threshold, when Mutant Tom kidnaps Janeway, it's reported on the bridge that there's an unauthorized launch in shuttlebay 2, to which Chakotay responds with "what!?" It's funny because I've always interpreted his reaction as "how the hell can there be a shuttle launch from a bay which doesn't exist?"
     
  2. dupersuper

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    Maybe they converted something to a second shuttlebay and that's where Neelixs' ship was...?
     
  3. Tim Thomason

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    Here is where I planned on proposing the idea that Voyager simply renamed their lone Shuttlebay as "Shuttlebay Two" because "Shuttlebay One" was removed at some point during the design phase.

    However, there are three instances where Shuttlebay One was mentioned (as opposed to the three where they mentioned Shuttlebay Two), that make it seem like an actual place somewhere on Voyager.

    The Enterprise-D doesn't seem to have a "Shuttlebay One", per transcripts, although they have their own "Shuttlebay Two" (15 refs) and "Shuttlebay Three" (2 refs). They have a "Main Shuttlebay", which *might* be Shuttlebay One, but who knows. Voyager never referenced a "Main Shuttlebay" (unlike TNG with its nine references), but perhaps Shuttlebay Two *is* the main shuttlebay, and Shuttlebay One is just some small alcove somewhere (... that the Delta Flyer flew out of, once? I don't know).

    Behind-the-scenes info just has "Shuttlebay 2" refer to a maintenance bay or hangar behind Shuttlebay 1.
     
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  4. F. King Daniel

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    In Star Trek Into Darkness, they launch Mudd's ship from "shittlebay 2" which turns out to be a side hatch from the big rear shuttlebay. Maybe Voyager's bay had a similar hidden exit.
     
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    The fantail landing pad lip is quite deep. I can see plates opening up on the underside for a dropship
     
  7. kon5ti

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    I would add the Nicholas Locarno is Tom Paris in disguise theory.
     
  8. The Wormhole

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    That's the first time I've heard anyone suggest that. Usually, people believe Nick Locarno is Owen Paris's illegitimate son.
     
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    Yes I've heard that to
     
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  11. F. King Daniel

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    Good ones, especially the Genesis/Khan baby
    Okay I've no idea about this one:lol:
     
  12. David cgc

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    Maybe the signs from The Andy Griffith Show that were visible when TOS shot on the backlot?
     
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  14. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I have been thinking the iceberg is way overdue for an update
     
  15. The Wormhole

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    Damn, The Cattlemen sounds sounds so terrible it could be fun. I kind of wish it were made.
     
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  16. Richard S. Ta

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    I wish all the terrible things had been made. Spock shooting Kennedy sounds like a hoot.
     
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    I'm disappointed that "Blue Warp Nacelles" isn't listed. That was an insane thread!
     
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    In case anyone doesn't know, this was that threads culmination.

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  19. Kor

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    I think something like the Cattlemen could have worked as an average, low-key television episode. It doesn't necessarily sound like a riveting idea for a cinematic feature, though.

    This type of concept has been used in literary SF, such as Mike Resnick's short story "Old MacDonald had a farm" which appeared in the September 2001 issue of Asimov's Science Fiction.

    Kor
     
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    Yeah as a "problem of the week" for an episode of pretty much any Star Trek show from TOS-ENT it could very easily worked, and, depending on the execution and the details, could have produced an interesting episode.
     
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