The Singularity is Near

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by ll StarTrekFan ll, Dec 30, 2017.

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The Singularity is Near

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  1. ll StarTrekFan ll

    ll StarTrekFan ll Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    The Singularity is Near
    "In The Singularity Is Near: When Humans Transcend Biology, Ray Kurzweil presents the next stage of his compelling view of the future: the merging of humans and machines. Kurzweil refers to this as “the singularity.
    He describes the singularity as a future period during which the pace of technological change will be so rapid, its impact so deep, that human life will be irreversibly transformed.

    Kurzweil postulates that we are already in the very early stages of this transition, and that within just a few decades, life as we know it will be completely different.

    He explains, “The singularity will represent the culmination of the merger of our biological thinking and existence with our technology, resulting in a world that is still human but that transcends our biological roots. There will be no distinction, post-singularity, between human and machine nor between physical and virtual reality.

    “If you wonder what will remain unequivocally human in such a world, it’s simply this quality — ours is the species that inherently seeks to extend its physical and mental reach beyond current limitations.” " -kurzweilai.net


    Here are links on the topic of the Singularity both for and against:


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    (F) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrZdAL_2LoU

    (G) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpbRpvDKy74

    (H) https://www.technologyreview.com/s/425733/paul-allen-the-singularity-isnt-near/

    (I) http://www.singularity.com/KurzweilFuturist.pdf

    (J) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OZDYGETKas&t=476s


    Thoughts?
     
  2. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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  3. Santaman

    Santaman Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Eh... RAMA?!!
     
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  4. YellowSubmarine

    YellowSubmarine Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    All references should be properly cited in the text.
     
  5. John Clark

    John Clark Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That was my first thought when I saw the thread title:confused:
     
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  6. Santaman

    Santaman Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Damnit! we have a copycat..
     
  7. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    :lol: The same thing just went through my head!
     
  8. Crazy Eddie

    Crazy Eddie Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Nope.

    Welcome back, Rama.
     
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  9. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Unfortunately, the Ramans do everything in threes, including spamming.
     
  10. ll StarTrekFan ll

    ll StarTrekFan ll Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    A standard format for formal debates is to create an unambiguous motion for which two competing sides argue both for and against (i.e. Motion: "X"-- For the Motion: I Agree with "X", Against the Motion: I Disagree with "X") ..

    Notice sources are both For and Against..
     
  11. ll StarTrekFan ll

    ll StarTrekFan ll Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    ?? All sources are "cited" as in they can be traced very easily. I'm not going to create a standard MLA bibliography as though I'm doing this for University
     
  12. Hugo Rune

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  13. Rincewiend

    Rincewiend Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I wouldn't call a millennium near...
    Or should that be millennia?!?
     
  14. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Hey, RAMA, Discovery sucks my left one!

    Sits and waits for nuclear explosion... :whistle:
     
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  15. ll StarTrekFan ll

    ll StarTrekFan ll Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Thank you for your "thoughtful" post and general level of "maturity"..

    FYI, I do not espouse to the Singularity (however this is irrelevant to the Motion itself)..

    It's interesting that on a Star Trek forum a conversation about hypothetical, futuristic Science & Tech gets derailed from the off..

    If I made a thread concerning the book(s) The Physics of Star Trek, Beyond Star Trek, Superintelligence, Physics of the Future, Physics of the Impossible, Our Final Invention, How to Create a Mind, Abundance, The Furture of the Mind, ect. ect. ect. would you all (i.e. everyone who has posted on this thread) be similarly "thoughtful" and "mature"?
     
  16. Gepard

    Gepard Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Kurtzwell is a crank.
     
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  17. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Perhaps the Singularity will be better at cutting and pasting and also at creating threads.

    You seem to want everyone to conform to your rules and perform in lockstep - perhaps you are the Singularity.

    Where's the off switch?
     
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  18. Serveaux

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    Kurzweil is an odd dude with Daddy issues.

    Daddy's dead, Ray. Daddy's been dead for a long time.
     
  19. Tetragrammaton Invictus

    Tetragrammaton Invictus I like the new Doctor Premium Member

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    The singularity isn't going to happen. Now now or the immediate future. We're safe from homicidal machines for now.
     
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  20. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    No. The precise reason I watch Star Trek is because I want to have fun. I talk about Star Trek because I want to have fun. The world's a serious place, I like to take a break from it every once in a while.